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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get how they cheated. They overheard kids talking about the test in the hallway? Is that it?

An A student who overheard some content is different than someone who smuggled notes into a closed-book exam or looked answers up online during the test.

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I’m confused also

Perhaps he is an A student in that class because he has been cheating on the other tests.

Around the same time in HS, my kid got caught cheating on a final. The reasons were the ones that others identified--was doing well, did not leave enough time to do a final project, and felt backed into a corner. He got a zero, and a lower grade in his course. I'm not making excuses, but some kids need to make bad decisions to learn. Mine is one of them. He's now going to a good college. As a parent, it feels horrible, but it does not mean your kid is doomed to a life of dishonesty. Adolescents make mistakes!

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how many people on this thread fail to understand just how many students cheat. My kids went to a very competitive DC private and all the top students cheated--it wasn't even a secret. Mine did not--until they got to their junior year of college and were fed up with trying to keep up with all the cheaters--and this is at top university. Literally everybody cheats.

I teach college and I throw students out of classes with Fs for cheating (school policy unless the infraction is miniscule and even then I'm still allowed to recommend the F). I can't believe that students still think they won't get caught. It's actually pretty easy to identify. The problem isn't finding them; the problem is that throwing the proverbial book at them is time-consuming so some faculty pass on that unless the offense is glaring. But then it's the student's gamble. My colleague in another department may have let you slide. But I won't.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how many people on this thread fail to understand just how many students cheat. My kids went to a very competitive DC private and all the top students cheated--it wasn't even a secret. Mine did not--until they got to their junior year of college and were fed up with trying to keep up with all the cheaters--and this is at top university. Literally everybody cheats.

THIS!!!!!! It is really astonishing how many students cheat particularly in honors /AP classes. My son was in an AP Calculus class first period where the average grade on a test would be a 75%. That same AP subject met for 3rd and 6th period and the average grade by 6th period would be 90%. My son would say it is so obvious kids are taking pictures of the test or taking screenshots, etc. then sharing the test questions so students in later periods would have the answers.

Students had copies of tests from past years or pictures of the tests from past years when teachers pass back the tests to review but are not as careful to supervise the tests. Kid takes pictures and then sells them the following year or gives them to younger sibling/cousins/ friends.

So many kids go to the bathroom during tests and look up answers on their phones. If the teacher tells the student phones need to stay in the class students bring two phones.

Students who do not cheat are in an extreme disadvantage. It really isn't fair.

I can't believe how many people on this thread fail to understand just how many students cheat. My kids went to a very competitive DC private and all the top students cheated--it wasn't even a secret. Mine did not--until they got to their junior year of college and were fed up with trying to keep up with all the cheaters--and this is at top university. Literally everybody cheats.

Assuming this is a real incident of real cheating, make sure the school gives serious consequences, and have DC follow them: don't question or negotiate. Reinforce at home that the school is right and this is what happens when cheating occurs, but don't harp or dwell, and don't bring it up again later as revenge ("if only you hadn't cheated in that one class, your grades would be X / you would have gotten into Y college"). Reiterate that DC can move past this and this is not their identity or their future - it is one mistake. But it is a mistake that they need to learn from, because cheating in college has even more serious ramifications, so they have to make sure their friends understand, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so embarrassed and disappointed. How do I discipline them? What do I do? How will this affect college? Child has 4.05 weighted and a 3.5 unweighted I think. Obviously not going to any top college but still concerned for a state school.

They had an A in the course. As long as they made an A on the final, the final grade would have been an A.

I just don’t understand. I am soo upset. I tried not to yell, but I did. I’m just livid. They said they heard kids talk about it in the hallway. What a stupid decision. Help.

If you live in Virginia, be concerned. Especially about UVA and William and Mary.

Not with a 3.5 unweighted GPA lol. Those are not even in the running at this point.

Not in the tri state thank goodness. Not a huge career focus as well. They want to be a teacher.

Of all careers teachers are the ones that need to learn the content of all of their classes. They are the ones who will pass this information on to the next generation.

I cheated once in college because I needed to in order to get a C and not have to take this required class again. My friend showed me how. It’s not a good feeling.

Anonymous wrote:Mine got caught cheating on a chemistry test in HS. He got a zero and I’m glad he wasn’t suspended. He retook the class in summer school. I had to pay for it and I made him pay me back. Life goes on. He’s in college now.

People, puh-leeze! We are talking about a child here. Children make mistakes. We all do.

All this punishment-talk in this thread sounds very MAGA.

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everyone is cheating

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Anonymous wrote:Consider it the best life lesson ever. He will go on to live a life of integrity.

This. Mine got caught cheating in middle school and I considered myself lucky it happened. Great life lesson.

Truth. I got caught cheating in 6th grade and have never forgotten it. I’m 50.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so embarrassed and disappointed. How do I discipline them? What do I do? How will this affect college? Child has 4.05 weighted and a 3.5 unweighted I think. Obviously not going to any top college but still concerned for a state school.

They had an A in the course. As long as they made an A on the final, the final grade would have been an A.

I just don’t understand. I am soo upset. I tried not to yell, but I did. I’m just livid. They said they heard kids talk about it in the hallway. What a stupid decision. Help.

If you live in Virginia, be concerned. Especially about UVA and William and Mary.

Not with a 3.5 unweighted GPA lol. Those are not even in the running at this point.

Not in the tri state thank goodness. Not a huge career focus as well. They want to be a teacher.

Obviously, because we don’t call it that. Don’t worry, some easy admit school will still take your kid and they can still major in education. Most public school teachers didn't go to Princeton or even UVA.

What would you have done if your child had failed the test or gotten a B- or C+? Maybe they saw this as a lesser consequence? You mention in your post “as long as they got an A on their exam….”

I was generally an A student and went to a top ranked college. I utterly failed a math midterm in college and withdrew from the class. My parents paid for my summer school course and never said a thing to me about it. I somehow didn’t think about the cost at the time - just the stress of failing and then fitting in a summer course with my summer job. They knew I was doing my best and just got in over my head.

Anonymous wrote:How do you get caught cheating in a final?

Do you have kids in high school? There is rampant cheating now. Are you puzzled that they got caught because so many students are cheating and teachers turn a blind eye because nothing is done by admin when the cheating is reported or you really don't realize how many ways there are to cheat on a final?

Anonymous wrote:You might be putting too much pressure on him to get high grades in classes that are too much for him. Talk to his teacher.

I'm so tired of mammas making excuses for their children. No, OP should not talk to his teacher, HE should talk to his teacher. You won't be there in college when he cheats on a test there. The consequence is he deals with it himself or he gets a bad grade. Not "it's totally fine, it's probably the parent's fault anyway"

Anonymous wrote:These answers are crazy. Is this public school? If so, no one cares. Not teachers, not admin. Most likely it won’t go on his record. Have your son approach the teacher and ask what they can do. Take it over? Accept a failing grade? Alternative test? Allow the school to discipline according. Again, doubt they will.

My kid got failed on an assignment in McPS MS because he allegedly cheated. What happened is that the girl next to him to explain the assignment because she couldn’t hear the teacher. He said he didn’t even know it was considered a “do your own work” thing because it was just an in class all tasks.
So I think the practice varies a lot.