Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 19:03     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats on the Chat GPT post...

+1 OP can you not speak with your own voice and from your own experience? If not, I'll be moving on.


OK then, move on and ignore what is happening. -Not OP
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 19:03     Subject: MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:ELC is going away because mcps is now using CKLA through 8th grade.
Sounds like Margaret Cage, who is new to mcps, pushed for CKLA based on her previous school district’s experience (from 10 years ago).


She also referred to Dartmouth as “Dart Mouth”.

But she has a doctorate in education from somewhere so who cares?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 19:02     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
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Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.


I don’t know what you think “moving away” is, but next year only lottery winners get a good ELA education in 4/5th grade. I have never known how anyone thought that was truly fair.


Coupled with the changes to MS and HS curricula, an "unlucky in the lottery" kid won't receive even grade-level ELA instruction until 11th grade in MCPS.


I do think it is better with CKLA for ES as of this year and MS as of next year. But HS is a huge problem. MCPS is still writing its own curriculum.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 19:01     Subject: MCPS is cutting ELC.
ELC is going away because mcps is now using CKLA through 8th grade.
Sounds like Margaret Cage, who is new to mcps, pushed for CKLA based on her previous school district’s experience (from 10 years ago).
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 11:37     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congrats on the Chat GPT post...

+1 OP can you not speak with your own voice and from your own experience? If not, I'll be moving on.


What post do you think is ChatGPT? If you mean the original post, that was copy & pasted from the PTA gifted committee.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 10:30     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:Congrats on the Chat GPT post...

+1 OP can you not speak with your own voice and from your own experience? If not, I'll be moving on.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 10:26     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:They just need to go back to admitting the strongest candidates instead of using a lottery. Covid isn’t preventing them from administering the Cogat.

Totally!!
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 09:44     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
They just need to go back to admitting the strongest candidates instead of using a lottery. Covid isn’t preventing them from administering the Cogat.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 09:29     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.

I’m not saying they have nothing in common, but they’re not the same. The CES curriculum is more comprehensive.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 08:01     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.


I don’t know what you think “moving away” is, but next year only lottery winners get a good ELA education in 4/5th grade. I have never known how anyone thought that was truly fair.


Coupled with the changes to MS and HS curricula, an "unlucky in the lottery" kid won't receive even grade-level ELA instruction until 11th grade in MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 07:59     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.


I don’t know what you think “moving away” is, but next year only lottery winners get a good ELA education in 4/5th grade. I have never known how anyone thought that was truly fair.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2025 07:46     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.


Then they should also get rid of the CES. Fair is fair.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 22:55     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.


ELC was based on the CES curriculum. They are moving away from it.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 22:51     Subject: Re:MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or they could offer the CES curriculum at all schools. But I guess they are fine with some segment of students having access to that curriculum while equally able and eligible but non-lottery-winning kids can twist in the wind with Model 1 or 2 over here.

I think that is what ELC was. They are moving in the opposite direction.

No, ELC and the CES curriculum are not the same.
Anonymous
Post 05/22/2025 10:34     Subject: MCPS is cutting ELC.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the MCCPTA gifted committee finally woke up on this. We've been talking about it here for months...


Does this committee actually exist? Our liaison says she can’t get connected to them.


The OP was taken from their FB page, so I think they absolutely exist.