Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 22:57     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump's economy sucks.


Biden’s insane spending caused this downgrade.


If that were the case, they would have downgraded when Biden was in office. They downgraded now because of things happening now. This isn't a lagging indicator.


Look, it's basic economics. Bad starts with B with stands for Biden. Terrific starts with T which sands for Trump.
So Bad Bonds are Biden.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 19:52     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Every time they argue over raising the debt ceiling they say "we don't want to default on the debt" they never say " we don't want to cut government to pay the bondholders"

That's literally admitting that paying back bondholders is the last budget priority. This is on top of already defaulting by paying back bondholders a fraction of their initial investments using deflated dollars.

What kind of idiot would buy and hold US bonds?


Most of the countries in the developed world and particularly China, well at least until a few months ago.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 19:47     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump's economy sucks.


Biden’s insane spending caused this downgrade.


If that were the case, they would have downgraded when Biden was in office. They downgraded now because of things happening now. This isn't a lagging indicator.


Very slowly, then suddenly....
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 17:26     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump's economy sucks.


Biden’s insane spending caused this downgrade.


If that were the case, they would have downgraded when Biden was in office. They downgraded now because of things happening now. This isn't a lagging indicator.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 16:51     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump's economy sucks.


Biden’s insane spending caused this downgrade.

And Trump's tax cuts are making the debt worse. So. expect another downgrade.

Per the article:

In its statement accompanying the downgrade, Moody’s analysts wrote that, “If the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act is extended, which is our base case, it will add around $4 trillion to the federal fiscal primary (excluding interest payments) deficit over the next decade.”

“As a result, we expect federal deficits to widen, reaching nearly 9% of GDP by 2035, up from 6.4% in 2024, driven mainly by increased interest payments on debt, rising entitlement spending and relatively low revenue generation,” Moody’s said. ″We anticipate that the federal debt burden will rise to about 134% of GDP by 2035, compared to 98% in 2024.″⁣
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 16:35     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:First time in modern history.



Liar.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/09/28/ratings-downgrade
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 16:33     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:Trump's economy sucks.


Biden’s insane spending caused this downgrade.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 16:32     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's still Biden's economy. This is the result of all the corruption and waste from him.

No one can cause a historic downgrade like this in only 119 days.

/s

Also, that's an actual social media post I saw by a MAGA relative.


And this is why I believe Americans deserve what they are about to get. Sadly, my family will too. But the brazen stupidity has just gone unchecked for far too long.


I don't know if you are simly the most ill informed person alive or if you are the king of the world wide Village Idiot society and I suspect that it is the latter.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 15:00     Subject: US credit downgrade


Every time they argue over raising the debt ceiling they say "we don't want to default on the debt" they never say " we don't want to cut government to pay the bondholders"

That's literally admitting that paying back bondholders is the last budget priority. This is on top of already defaulting by paying back bondholders a fraction of their initial investments using deflated dollars.

What kind of idiot would buy and hold US bonds?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:59     Subject: US credit downgrade


Every time they argue over raising the debt ceiling they say "we don't want to default on the debt" they never say " we don't want to cut government to pay the bondholders"

That's literally admitting that paying back bondholders is the last budget priority. This is on top of already defaulting by paying back bondholders a fraction of their initial investments using deflated dollars.

What kind of idiot would buy and hold US bonds?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:35     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:This is a result of decades of fiscal mismanagement by BOTH parties. Time to significantly increase taxes on American citizens and make major, painful cuts to entitlement programs, and other discretionary budget items. Increase DOGE efforts by 100% to remove fraud and waste. There is no way around this.


Serious question...where is the mismanagement? With the exception of the Department of Defense, every other agency has audits and inspector generals and reports to congress that pass with flying colors. The Pentagon has not had a clean audit in years. If there is fraud and waste anywhere, it is there, and yet, DOGE doesn't touch the Pentagon and the GOP adds to their budget while cutting everywhere else.

Do you understand that there has been a reduction in the federal workforce steadily since Reagan was in office? Jobs and responsibilities that used to be in house are now outsourced to consulting firms at 5-10x the cost to the tax payer, with the partners of those firms making the difference (and then contributing to the GOP to keep the gravy train going)

DOGE has literally not found any fraud or abuse. Waste is in the eyes of the beholder.

You want to cut entitlement programs? Ok, so you are kicking poor old people on to the streets, or turning loose more mentally ill people to be homeless and muttering to themselves? Or cutting off healthcare to poor babies? Like what cuts do you want to make? There aren't "welfare queens" of healthy ble people getting rich on "entitlement programs" - that was a myth of the Reagan era (https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history/2013/12/linda_taylor_welfare_queen_ronald_reagan_made_her_a_notorious_american_villain.html) and certainly doesn't exist today after the reforms when Bill Clinton was president.

so, yeah, be specific, what cuts are you looking for?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:22     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:This is a result of decades of fiscal mismanagement by BOTH parties. Time to significantly increase taxes on American citizens and make major, painful cuts to entitlement programs, and other discretionary budget items. Increase DOGE efforts by 100% to remove fraud and waste. There is no way around this.

Please. DOGE didn't find any waste/fraud.

Also, the CURRENT party in power is adding trillions to the deficit, and Trump "king of debit" is fully onboard with it.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:08     Subject: US credit downgrade

This is a result of decades of fiscal mismanagement by BOTH parties. Time to significantly increase taxes on American citizens and make major, painful cuts to entitlement programs, and other discretionary budget items. Increase DOGE efforts by 100% to remove fraud and waste. There is no way around this.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:07     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a couple of months ago that Biden left office with the best economy in the world.


This is a joke.


Using actual metrics, what about the Biden economy wasn't better than everyone else in the world?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2025 14:07     Subject: US credit downgrade

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a couple of months ago that Biden left office with the best economy in the world.


This is a joke.


No, it is reality.