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Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of it's berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

Anonymous wrote:Drop anchor

Yeah all of them, asap.

Between the captain and the delinquent tugboats or SOS for help, I just can not.

Right by Luigi Mangione at the Brooklyn i Center. Must be another cockroach omen.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

I watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2p9bYfFhHE

Around 9:00, he points out that the ship has a wake in the video, which implies it's moving faster than the current. He says the motor might have been stuck in reverse, so they cut it (the propeller is not turning when it hits).

He also repeatedly points out that it was an amazing thing that the masts snapped but the rigging didn't fail and fall into the water. Given how many sailors were attached to the rigging and would have drowned in that situation, that's a very good thing.

So sad. I wonder if the captain tried to get the sailors down from the mast once he realized the engines were stalled.
Also I know nothing about boats but this is the second time a boat has hit a bridge because the engines stalled out at an inconvenient time. Totally different types of ships. Is it normal for ship engines to stall?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

What is the Mexican navy doing with a ship like this, and why is it sailing around? The U.S. still has the Constellation, but it never leaves Baltimore.

“ The Mexican Navy's tall ship ARM Cuauhtémoc, a 1982 Spanish-built barque with 277 crew members. The ship, docked at Pier 17 since May 13 for public tours and the Sail4th event celebrating the U.S.’s 250th anniversary, was a symbol of international goodwill. “

From NYP

It’s was there for celebration

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

What is the Mexican navy doing with a ship like this, and why is it sailing around? The U.S. still has the Constellation, but it never leaves Baltimore.

But other similar ships do. They’re often used as training vessels and in NYC they sometimes visit for Fleet Week. I’ve seen them in Baltimore too.

As to your first question, I don’t know, but given the way the world is trending, having people trained in pre-electronic ways of doing things seems prudent.

Drop anchor

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

What is the Mexican navy doing with a ship like this, and why is it sailing around? The U.S. still has the Constellation, but it never leaves Baltimore.

Sorry, I meant the Constitution in Boston.

It’s on a “Goodwill tour”.

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Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

How do you think a boat this size stops or turns?

They do so by reversing the engines, which wouldn't have been working if there was a power outage.

As it's a tall ship, I would think it's something to do with the sails and tacking, but what do I know.

Dozens of sailors sitting up on the sails/mast they were not being used to steer the boat.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

What is the Mexican navy doing with a ship like this, and why is it sailing around? The U.S. still has the Constellation, but it never leaves Baltimore.

Sorry, I meant the Constitution in Boston.

Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

What is the Mexican navy doing with a ship like this, and why is it sailing around? The U.S. still has the Constellation, but it never leaves Baltimore.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

How do you think a boat this size stops or turns?

They do so by reversing the engines, which wouldn't have been working if there was a power outage.

As it's a tall ship, I would think it's something to do with the sails and tacking, but what do I know.

In that location, it wouldn't have been sailing. If you look at the footage the sails are furled. It was running on the engine.