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Anonymous wrote:the earlier poster said the % staying on for the feeder middle school is reflective of the overall mix of abilities at the elementary school. i think once you have over 1/2 the kids staying thats mostly right.

No it’s not an overall mix. It’s the kids who are lower performing mixing in with lower performing kids from other schools.

Just look at math scores. Almost 1 in 5 kids at Maury above grade level in math. EH 1 in 50 kids. That is a huge difference of 10 fold.

Anonymous wrote:the earlier poster said the % staying on for the feeder middle school is reflective of the overall mix of abilities at the elementary school. i think once you have over 1/2 the kids staying thats mostly right.

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Anonymous wrote:So OP, you are going to move your kid to 5th to a new school. Then majority of those kids won’t go to the feeder SH or EH or whatever.

You send your kid to the feeder then fund out that it’s not a good fit for various reasons and then what? Switch where? Move? So now your kid has had 3-4 major disruptive moves.

Lots of risks and variable that you can’t control and won’t know. You should have been planning your move as back up 2 years ago since you are not in a good feeder.

So, looking at that dashboard (which is 1 year out of date), 62% of L-T’s 5th graders went to SH and, if you look at the other schools that folks went to, it seems like that the high achievers are at least proportionally represented among the 62%. That’s a solid cohort.

Maury is almost identical with 63%. The question is whether you’d be as happy at EH as SH and whether your kid would be as happy at an ES with very few new 5th graders. Only you can answer those questions.

I would not personally send my kid to Watkins, which is like 10% IB by that point and does not have great scores as a result (though the scores are good for demographics). That said, 73% of kids go on to SH, so there will be a cohort.

Brent, on the other hand, is only 10 kids or 30% headed to Jefferson, and if you look at the other schools, it’s likely high achievers are underrepresented among the 10. Very different experience.

I personally would make the switch and I don’t think you’d need to worry that there wouldn’t be a cohort at any of the 3 schools mentioned. SWS is different. Fewer than 10 kids head to EH (and I think it’s actually a lot fewer); that switch isn’t worth it.

Patent of current Maury 4th grader here. We also struck out on lottery for Latin (didn’t try for BASIS). Glad to see the percentage going on to EH from Maury. FWIW, we really like Maury and find test data suggests kids who go from Maury to EH do really well. And that elusive anecdotal evidence you mentioned is very positive as to EH. People without kids there seem to look down on it but those who choose it seem happy. It’s a smaller school with apparently a strong admin.

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Anonymous wrote:So OP, you are going to move your kid to 5th to a new school. Then majority of those kids won’t go to the feeder SH or EH or whatever.

You send your kid to the feeder then fund out that it’s not a good fit for various reasons and then what? Switch where? Move? So now your kid has had 3-4 major disruptive moves.

Lots of risks and variable that you can’t control and won’t know. You should have been planning your move as back up 2 years ago since you are not in a good feeder.

So, looking at that dashboard (which is 1 year out of date), 62% of L-T’s 5th graders went to SH and, if you look at the other schools that folks went to, it seems like that the high achievers are at least proportionally represented among the 62%. That’s a solid cohort.

Maury is almost identical with 63%. The question is whether you’d be as happy at EH as SH and whether your kid would be as happy at an ES with very few new 5th graders. Only you can answer those questions.

I would not personally send my kid to Watkins, which is like 10% IB by that point and does not have great scores as a result (though the scores are good for demographics). That said, 73% of kids go on to SH, so there will be a cohort.

Brent, on the other hand, is only 10 kids or 30% headed to Jefferson, and if you look at the other schools, it’s likely high achievers are underrepresented among the 10. Very different experience.

I personally would make the switch and I don’t think you’d need to worry that there wouldn’t be a cohort at any of the 3 schools mentioned. SWS is different. Fewer than 10 kids head to EH (and I think it’s actually a lot fewer); that switch isn’t worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Think of it this way. If your kid moves to EH or SH in 6th they'll be new anyway. I think knowing no one in 6th is WAY harder than starting in 5th.

Yeah this. They'll have a set of friends to navigate 6th grade with, and I think SH feeders do some events in 5th to get everyone familiarized?

Anonymous wrote:Think of it this way. If your kid moves to EH or SH in 6th they'll be new anyway. I think knowing no one in 6th is WAY harder than starting in 5th.

Anonymous wrote:There were 50 SH and 55 EH initial lottery matches this year. (Also, if you like Basis, it went 98 spots into the waitlist last summer. It is maybe easier to get into than 5th at Ludlow). But if you are specifically at Brent where lots of families leave after 4th, not a huge fan of the upper school model, looking at swing space, switching now for 5th does make some sense. I might add Payne to your list of possible schools - it is now the largest EH feeder school.

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Anonymous wrote:So OP, you are going to move your kid to 5th to a new school. Then majority of those kids won’t go to the feeder SH or EH or whatever.

You send your kid to the feeder then fund out that it’s not a good fit for various reasons and then what? Switch where? Move? So now your kid has had 3-4 major disruptive moves.

Lots of risks and variable that you can’t control and won’t know. You should have been planning your move as back up 2 years ago since you are not in a good feeder.

So, looking at that dashboard (which is 1 year out of date), 62% of L-T’s 5th graders went to SH and, if you look at the other schools that folks went to, it seems like that the high achievers are at least proportionally represented among the 62%. That’s a solid cohort.

Maury is almost identical with 63%. The question is whether you’d be as happy at EH as SH and whether your kid would be as happy at an ES with very few new 5th graders. Only you can answer those questions.

I would not personally send my kid to Watkins, which is like 10% IB by that point and does not have great scores as a result (though the scores are good for demographics). That said, 73% of kids go on to SH, so there will be a cohort.

Brent, on the other hand, is only 10 kids or 30% headed to Jefferson, and if you look at the other schools, it’s likely high achievers are underrepresented among the 10. Very different experience.

I personally would make the switch and I don’t think you’d need to worry that there wouldn’t be a cohort at any of the 3 schools mentioned. SWS is different. Fewer than 10 kids head to EH (and I think it’s actually a lot fewer); that switch isn’t worth it.

Anonymous wrote:So OP, you are going to move your kid to 5th to a new school. Then majority of those kids won’t go to the feeder SH or EH or whatever.

You send your kid to the feeder then fund out that it’s not a good fit for various reasons and then what? Switch where? Move? So now your kid has had 3-4 major disruptive moves.

Lots of risks and variable that you can’t control and won’t know. You should have been planning your move as back up 2 years ago since you are not in a good feeder.

Anonymous wrote:We had a terrible experience with 5th grade at CHML (a lot behavioral issues, class disruption, fights, penalizing the entire class for the misbehavior of few students etc).