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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

Is the 3rd grade advanced math coverage still the same this year? Based on the current pacing guides, it looks like FCPS scaled back content in Grade 3 advanced math this year, above and beyond the changes in the new standards. It doesn't look like they cover 1/2 of 4th grade math content in 3rd grade any longer.

Ours explicitly stated they would cover half of 4th grade math and the tests each had a section identified as 3rd grade standards and a section identified as 4th grade standards.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

Is the 3rd grade advanced math coverage still the same this year? Based on the current pacing guides, it looks like FCPS scaled back content in Grade 3 advanced math this year, above and beyond the changes in the new standards. It doesn't look like they cover 1/2 of 4th grade math content in 3rd grade any longer.

Yes. It’s the same. They don’t have to cover exactly the same topics just faster. I was being slightly glib. Teachers often ‘circle back’ to topics from previous years and introduce a new aspect of that topic. In Advanced Math they don’t circle back - they just teach it all at once and have a child show mastery (or not).

Believe it or not, teachers know what they’re doing.

Yes, teachers know what they're doing. This question relates to FCPS policy. The question is whether E3 has been implemented everywhere in Grade 3 this year. Superintendent Reid spoke to the School Board about how 3rd grade math was being reformed this year and they would be carrying those changes through to subsequent grades as current 3rd graders move up. You don't hear much about E3 pilots anymore so it seems E3 may be used everywhere in grade 3 this year. The current 3rd grade curriculum pacing guides seem to show this too. They cover less 4th grade content in advanced 3rd grade math this year than they used to in prior years, above and beyond the standards changes.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

Is the 3rd grade advanced math coverage still the same this year? Based on the current pacing guides, it looks like FCPS scaled back content in Grade 3 advanced math this year, above and beyond the changes in the new standards. It doesn't look like they cover 1/2 of 4th grade math content in 3rd grade any longer.

Yes. It’s the same. They don’t have to cover exactly the same topics just faster. I was being slightly glib. Teachers often ‘circle back’ to topics from previous years and introduce a new aspect of that topic. In Advanced Math they don’t circle back - they just teach it all at once and have a child show mastery (or not).

Believe it or not, teachers know what they’re doing.

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

Is the 3rd grade advanced math coverage still the same this year? Based on the current pacing guides, it looks like FCPS scaled back content in Grade 3 advanced math this year, above and beyond the changes in the new standards. It doesn't look like they cover 1/2 of 4th grade math content in 3rd grade any longer.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

My kid was in Advanced Math and took the 5th grade SOL, they skipped the 6th grade SOL. I am looking at his record, he has 3rd,4th,5th,7th grade Math SOL scores. He is in 7th grade this year and we are waiting on the Algebra 1 score.

My AAP kid is also in 7th algebra 1h. I’m looking at his record and They skipped 5th grade SOL and take 6th instead (in 5th grade) bc the curriculum that year covers both grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

This is correct, from another teacher. If your child was in advanced math in 5th but didn't take the 6th grade SOL, they were in something the school was calling "advanced math," but if you check SIS most likely the name of the course was Grade 5 Math rather than Grade 5 Adv Math.

I have heard from one teacher at a local full time school AAP that many of the kids in their full time AAP class couldn't actually handle the full 6th grade content, so they kept those kids listed as Grade 5 Math in SIS so they could still take the Grade 5 SOL and not Grade 6.

There are all sorts of little ways the local programs have to fudge things because the kids in their classes have such a wide range of abilities. I don't blame them. It's harder to get away with those things at the centers.

+1 that’s why many parents want a real AAP center. Local centers are watered down.

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

This is correct, from another teacher. If your child was in advanced math in 5th but didn't take the 6th grade SOL, they were in something the school was calling "advanced math," but if you check SIS most likely the name of the course was Grade 5 Math rather than Grade 5 Adv Math.

I have heard from one teacher at a local full time school AAP that many of the kids in their full time AAP class couldn't actually handle the full 6th grade content, so they kept those kids listed as Grade 5 Math in SIS so they could still take the Grade 5 SOL and not Grade 6.

There are all sorts of little ways the local programs have to fudge things because the kids in their classes have such a wide range of abilities. I don't blame them. It's harder to get away with those things at the centers.

Teacher here -

On the Advanced Math track:
3rd - all 3rd curriculum half of 4th - 3rd SOL
4th - half of 4th all of 5th curriculum - 4th SOL
5th - 6th grade curriculum - 6th SOL
6th - Math 7 curriculum - Math 7 SOL

If you are in Advanced Math, that’s the track in the whole county.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

Nope, not all schools.

They are supposed to.

I don't think that they are. The AAP presentation we saw from the AART specifically said that they skip the 6th grade SOL and that is it. But this is FCPS so some schools do things the way that they want to and County policy is ignroed. We see that with AARTs who help with packets at some schools and in other schools the AART refuses to discuss AAP options for a specific student with parents, never mind look at parent submissions. Some teachers will tell parents they cannot discuss AAP at all while other schools seem to have parent teacher conferences to discuss AAP. Some people sear that Centers cannot principal place kids while some Center schools clearly principal place. Some people claim that all schools have full time AARTs when there are others who know that they have a 1/2-time AART.

I think people think that what happens at their school is what happens elsewhere when the reality is it is school by school.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

My kid was in Advanced Math and took the 5th grade SOL, they skipped the 6th grade SOL. I am looking at his record, he has 3rd,4th,5th,7th grade Math SOL scores. He is in 7th grade this year and we are waiting on the Algebra 1 score.

Then maybe they made a mistake. Advanced math kids in 5th take the 6th grade math sol. They actually skip the 5th grade math sol. Was your child in AAP or just local advanced math?

Local Advanced Math, we didn't have a LLIV class when he started at his ES. They have one now.

Was he in local advanced math in both 5th and 6th grade or only in 6th?

Technically, he was in Advanced Math since 3rd grade. They separated the class in totality in 5th grade but there was an Advanced Group that started in 3rd grade. The teachers specifically discussed that the entire class received the accelerated curriculum but that the grades in the 3rd and 4th grade were only based on the grade level material. They didn't want for students to lose the option of moving into the separate class in 5th grade by separating the groups too early. There was a distinct class in 5th grade with little movement in or out in 6th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

Nope, not all schools.

They are supposed to.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

Nope, not all schools.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

My kid was in Advanced Math and took the 5th grade SOL, they skipped the 6th grade SOL. I am looking at his record, he has 3rd,4th,5th,7th grade Math SOL scores. He is in 7th grade this year and we are waiting on the Algebra 1 score.

Then maybe they made a mistake. Advanced math kids in 5th take the 6th grade math sol. They actually skip the 5th grade math sol. Was your child in AAP or just local advanced math?

Local Advanced Math, we didn't have a LLIV class when he started at his ES. They have one now.

Was he in local advanced math in both 5th and 6th grade or only in 6th?

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

My kid was in Advanced Math and took the 5th grade SOL, they skipped the 6th grade SOL. I am looking at his record, he has 3rd,4th,5th,7th grade Math SOL scores. He is in 7th grade this year and we are waiting on the Algebra 1 score.

Then maybe they made a mistake. Advanced math kids in 5th take the 6th grade math sol. They actually skip the 5th grade math sol. Was your child in AAP or just local advanced math?

Local Advanced Math, we didn't have a LLIV class when he started at his ES. They have one now.

Same for our school. Never took a year above test until 6th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:For fifth graders in advanced math taking the sixth grade SOL, what score qualifies the kid for pre-algebra in 6th? Is it school dependent?

5th graders in Advanced Math should have taken the 5th grade SOL. Each school has its own process for placing kids in 6th grade Advanced Math, there is no set standard. It was rare for kids to be dropped from Advanced Math in 6th grade.

6th graders take the 7th grade SOL, they need to pass advanced to have the option to take Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think AAP kids take grade level SOL in 3rd and 4th but starting in 5th, they skip 5th grade SOL and take the 6th SOL, then 6th grade AAP takes 7th grade SOL.

My kid was in Advanced Math and took the 5th grade SOL, they skipped the 6th grade SOL. I am looking at his record, he has 3rd,4th,5th,7th grade Math SOL scores. He is in 7th grade this year and we are waiting on the Algebra 1 score.

Then maybe they made a mistake. Advanced math kids in 5th take the 6th grade math sol. They actually skip the 5th grade math sol. Was your child in AAP or just local advanced math?

Local Advanced Math, we didn't have a LLIV class when he started at his ES. They have one now.