Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:52
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
What do you mean MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL? Not sure I get that. Have seen no evidence of that.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:51
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Sorry your post devolved...not surprising..there was a lot of good advice at the beginning.
Good luck with your decision, trust us old timers, it's not make or break at U13.
There are a lot of different ways to get to the same end and sometimes all your research and right decisions get impacted by outside forces.
Don't forget checking how much your daughter wants to pour into the travel and commitment. It can change every year.
Ultimate goal to play high school, which is great and fun and memory making, you are fine either way as long as she is getting playing time and good coaching.
Unfortunately theres no magic eight ball or right answer for everyone. Some day these GA/ECNL partisans will figure that out, in the meantime don't get sucked in, it's a waste of energy and time you can be spending with your family.
With a DD now playing in college and out of the GA/ECNL fight I agree with the post above. You will likely have to change teams over the next few years unless you are super lucky. Pick the bet fit now and be prepared to move as needed.
We moved from a small club to a big club that was DA then GA then ECNL. That all worked well but DD could have had to move if things had gone in another direction.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:50
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Your world view is too small. DMV is barely anything in the national landscape. ECNL is fine, DMV has it's issues.
I have no dog in this fight but clearly do not know much if you think the “DMV is barely anything in the national landscape.”
Please explain which DMV clubs are nationally relevant year over year
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:48
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Your world view is too small. DMV is barely anything in the national landscape. ECNL is fine, DMV has it's issues.
I have no dog in this fight but clearly do not know much if you think the “DMV is barely anything in the national landscape.”
They aren't. They have 1 or 2 clubs that crack the top 20 nationally. It's all CA/TX/NY/NJ
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:48
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Go where you will get the most playing time.
There is no way to even have a clue as to how this will play out.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:42
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Your world view is too small. DMV is barely anything in the national landscape. ECNL is fine, DMV has it's issues.
I have no dog in this fight but clearly do not know much if you think the “DMV is barely anything in the national landscape.”
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:17
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Your world view is too small. DMV is barely anything in the national landscape. ECNL is fine, DMV has it's issues.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:05
Subject: ECNL vs GA
want to make a bet? U will see one of the clubs give up their dual ECNL and MLSN branding after next season. Wonder which one they are picking? MLSN is killing girls side for ECNL. I give it 2 years before ECNL doest exist in DMVAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 09:17
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Does anyone know when the age/vs school year decision will be made for GA? I saw someone post an email from McLean awhile ago about tGA going school year but I don't know that I believe it as no one else has said anything from what I've seen. Correct me if I'm wrong!
Anonymous
05/15/2025 09:09
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?
It’s not changing at all. It’s definitely not rapidly changing.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 09:04
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go where you will get the most playing time.
💯
So much changes over the years, so really you need to make the best decision for this year only.
Over the years, I watched players who were subs blossom when the players in front of them moved on. All that taught me was that playing time in actual games is so, so important.
So true. Can't tell you how many times I've seen girls rot on the bench because their parents are so caught up in the ECNL title. Invariably those girls end up quitting and hating soccer. Makes no sense to put a kid through that when there are so many options now.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 08:52
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Sorry your post devolved...not surprising..there was a lot of good advice at the beginning.
Good luck with your decision, trust us old timers, it's not make or break at U13.
There are a lot of different ways to get to the same end and sometimes all your research and right decisions get impacted by outside forces.
Don't forget checking how much your daughter wants to pour into the travel and commitment. It can change every year.
Ultimate goal to play high school, which is great and fun and memory making, you are fine either way as long as she is getting playing time and good coaching.
Unfortunately theres no magic eight ball or right answer for everyone. Some day these GA/ECNL partisans will figure that out, in the meantime don't get sucked in, it's a waste of energy and time you can be spending with your family.
Good luck with your decision, trust us old timers, it's not make or break at U13.
There are a lot of different ways to get to the same end and sometimes all your research and right decisions get impacted by outside forces.
Don't forget checking how much your daughter wants to pour into the travel and commitment. It can change every year.
Ultimate goal to play high school, which is great and fun and memory making, you are fine either way as long as she is getting playing time and good coaching.
Unfortunately theres no magic eight ball or right answer for everyone. Some day these GA/ECNL partisans will figure that out, in the meantime don't get sucked in, it's a waste of energy and time you can be spending with your family.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 07:16
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:disagree seen many a ECNL vs GA. They are on par. ECNL however has better college pathway.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA and ECNL are on par with each other. RL is a B team. ECNL currently has better college pathway. However with the new rules, once a team goes MLSN, they cant keep ECNL on boys side. Once that happens they lose girls ECNL. So GA is currently where things are heading. Current clubs that have both, have been told they must give up one league. And most are heading MLSN and GA. Vice keeping ECNL.. Boys draw more money to clubs.
GA is not on par with ECNL yet. Maybe it will be in less than two years. But it is not now.
That said, I would not put GA as tier 2. It’s more like tier 1.5
If you’re talking about quality of clubs/teams. Some are indeed on par. As a whole, not yet.
People also saying how GA’s college recruitment is catching up. False. No evidence of it closing the gap. Many people predict it will (me included). But not yet.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 07:07
Subject: ECNL vs GA
Anonymous wrote:disagree seen many a ECNL vs GA. They are on par. ECNL however has better college pathway.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA and ECNL are on par with each other. RL is a B team. ECNL currently has better college pathway. However with the new rules, once a team goes MLSN, they cant keep ECNL on boys side. Once that happens they lose girls ECNL. So GA is currently where things are heading. Current clubs that have both, have been told they must give up one league. And most are heading MLSN and GA. Vice keeping ECNL.. Boys draw more money to clubs.
GA is not on par with ECNL yet. Maybe it will be in less than two years. But it is not now.
That said, I would not put GA as tier 2. It’s more like tier 1.5
They are not even close to on par with each other locally. GA parents are hopeful the two get closer but the better ECNL teams destroy the best GA teams currently. If you don’t believe so, it means you’ve only seen GA games.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 21:36
Subject: ECNL vs GA
pretty much.. parents chasing alphabet soup. ECNL had the college pathway. And still does but it’s changing rapidlyAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:GA is all talk. There are 2 maybe 3 decent teams in each conference then it falls off. They preach mental health, but do nothing to help the girls. It’s all just about money, and trying to ruin Ecnl. All the new teams that joined them this year were all weak teams, no Ecnl teams. Put it this way, if Rochester is winning a conference you know it’s weak. That club is a bunch of parent coaches there for one reason, yo get their kids play time. None off the parent coaches kids leave the field, and most of their kids are the weaker players on the team. Also that club has had girls leave with mental health issues because of the coaches this year, and where are the GA people, no where to be found. Should they not be looking into this if they are all about the girls, and their mental health.
Isnt there only 2 or 3 decent teams in ECNL conference?