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Anonymous wrote:Well this whole article made me google the water quality for cabin John creek where I sometimes let my kids and dog swim. Looks like water testing is that it’s usually well under target levels, except after major rains. (And I don’t let them put head under and they bathe right after.). I’ll admit I find the rain thing counter intuitive because it seems like more water would be safer (dilute the nasty stuff) but apparently it just washes too much stuff in from the yards.

Continue on your Google journey to learn about the combined sewer system! It’s fascinating. Bottom line though, as the creek gets closer to the Potomac, there are Combined Sewer Overflows which mix storm water and water from our household drains (pooooooo) and dump them into the creek when they exceed capacity. Up where you are, all the storm water and the household drains are separate. We’re working on it! Big tunnels! Lots of fascinating infrastructure.

But yes, because of that and the things that run into the creek with stormwater generally, it is a good idea to be mindful of recent rainfall if you’re swimming/wading.

My understanding is that RFK Jr was right by the CSOs, which is a pretty stupid place to take your kids swimming even if you have brain worms.

NP. Thank you for the info!

He grew up in a family that praises risk-taking, often with tragic results.

In the scheme of things currently wrong with our country--and him personally as an appointed official--this barely ranks, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see this was a scandal because I often times see kids playing in the creek.

We kind of expect that sometimes kids will do impulsive, even risky things. The Secretary of HHS? Not so much. If he’s openly willing to endanger himself and his grandchildren, violating quite well-known rules in the process, that really illustrates quite horribly what he’s likely to be willing to do to us. Add in his lack of actual medical training , and the writing is on the wall.

He's done stuff like this for years. The craziness with sticking a dead bear in Central Park. Refusing to pay alimony because he got a brain worm from eating raw meat or whatever. I really thought Republicans would object to his appointment to HHS. It was unimaginable that this nut is in a position of power to make policy for America's public health.

Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see this was a scandal because I often times see kids playing in the creek.

We kind of expect that sometimes kids will do impulsive, even risky things. The Secretary of HHS? Not so much. If he’s openly willing to endanger himself and his grandchildren, violating quite well-known rules in the process, that really illustrates quite horribly what he’s likely to be willing to do to us. Add in his lack of actual medical training , and the writing is on the wall.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this whole article made me google the water quality for cabin John creek where I sometimes let my kids and dog swim. Looks like water testing is that it’s usually well under target levels, except after major rains. (And I don’t let them put head under and they bathe right after.). I’ll admit I find the rain thing counter intuitive because it seems like more water would be safer (dilute the nasty stuff) but apparently it just washes too much stuff in from the yards.

Continue on your Google journey to learn about the combined sewer system! It’s fascinating. Bottom line though, as the creek gets closer to the Potomac, there are Combined Sewer Overflows which mix storm water and water from our household drains (pooooooo) and dump them into the creek when they exceed capacity. Up where you are, all the storm water and the household drains are separate. We’re working on it! Big tunnels! Lots of fascinating infrastructure.

But yes, because of that and the things that run into the creek with stormwater generally, it is a good idea to be mindful of recent rainfall if you’re swimming/wading.

My understanding is that RFK Jr was right by the CSOs, which is a pretty stupid place to take your kids swimming even if you have brain worms.

lol I truly appreciate you finding the silver lining in this being an opportunity to learn about the Combined Sewer System. especially since I have no doubt that with today’s politics, we would never ever have a public sewer system if it has not been installed 100+ years ago.

Oh but gurl. It is happening.

Even with today’s politics did you know that they have been digging HUGE ASS TUNNELS under your feet these past ten ish years? Did you know that those tunnels now hold hundreds of thousands of gallons of water when there is rain so that less has to overflow out into the creeks and rivers and more can go to Blue Plains?

And did you know that Blue Plains is a legit world class facility? We’re talking Japan/Germany are jealous of us-level sh!t okay. ARMIES OF BACTERIA ARE WORKING FOR YOU DOWN THERE. Sophisticated bacteria. Fancy, science bacteria, like the bacteria probably have advanced degrees idk. Do you remember that egg video with “bigger than before?” The water leaves CLEANER THAN BEFORE. Go look at where the water leaves Blue Plains and goes back into the river, all the animals are basically having a party, okay. That’s where that stupid mfer should have gone swimming (although obviously please don’t swim in the river is is very dangerous).

Anyway, get vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:Well this whole article made me google the water quality for cabin John creek where I sometimes let my kids and dog swim. Looks like water testing is that it’s usually well under target levels, except after major rains. (And I don’t let them put head under and they bathe right after.). I’ll admit I find the rain thing counter intuitive because it seems like more water would be safer (dilute the nasty stuff) but apparently it just washes too much stuff in from the yards.

Continue on your Google journey to learn about the combined sewer system! It’s fascinating. Bottom line though, as the creek gets closer to the Potomac, there are Combined Sewer Overflows which mix storm water and water from our household drains (pooooooo) and dump them into the creek when they exceed capacity. Up where you are, all the storm water and the household drains are separate. We’re working on it! Big tunnels! Lots of fascinating infrastructure.

But yes, because of that and the things that run into the creek with stormwater generally, it is a good idea to be mindful of recent rainfall if you’re swimming/wading.

My understanding is that RFK Jr was right by the CSOs, which is a pretty stupid place to take your kids swimming even if you have brain worms.

lol I truly appreciate you finding the silver lining in this being an opportunity to learn about the Combined Sewer System. especially since I have no doubt that with today’s politics, we would never ever have a public sewer system if it has not been installed 100+ years ago.

Anonymous wrote:In normal times it would be a call to clean up the creek: it’s crazy to rely on 100 year-old sewage pipes. Bit that seems like the least of our problems right now.

It is being cleaned up! But it’s not like the pipes are leaking.

It’s more like the part of the creek close to the river is intentionally used as overflow for our combined sewer system and that makes it unsafe for swimming.

Is a combined sewer system bad? Not necessarily! It has upsides!

Anonymous wrote:Well this whole article made me google the water quality for cabin John creek where I sometimes let my kids and dog swim. Looks like water testing is that it’s usually well under target levels, except after major rains. (And I don’t let them put head under and they bathe right after.). I’ll admit I find the rain thing counter intuitive because it seems like more water would be safer (dilute the nasty stuff) but apparently it just washes too much stuff in from the yards.

Continue on your Google journey to learn about the combined sewer system! It’s fascinating. Bottom line though, as the creek gets closer to the Potomac, there are Combined Sewer Overflows which mix storm water and water from our household drains (pooooooo) and dump them into the creek when they exceed capacity. Up where you are, all the storm water and the household drains are separate. We’re working on it! Big tunnels! Lots of fascinating infrastructure.

But yes, because of that and the things that run into the creek with stormwater generally, it is a good idea to be mindful of recent rainfall if you’re swimming/wading.

My understanding is that RFK Jr was right by the CSOs, which is a pretty stupid place to take your kids swimming even if you have brain worms.

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Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see this was a scandal because I often times see kids playing in the creek.

Also stupid. That area of rock creek is behind Dumbarton oaks near montrose park. When my kids were young we often walked the path along the creek and managed to know not to wade in it.

That used to be one of my favorite spots. I’m mad RFK found it. I would have been livid if his dumb stunt meant I couldn’t walk there due to his security.

Anonymous wrote:This guy has mental problems, is ignorant, and lacks judgment. He should not be in charge of a lemonade, stand much less have a position as the head of our nation’s health agency. His father must be spinning in his grave.

He is truly, truly that bad and more. Probably the worst Trump appointee - Hegseth despite being a racist alcoholic is not insane and has a coherent viewpoint of his job even if I disagree with him. RFK jr is literally insane and bad and a liar and a narcissist and brain damaged and a drug addict.

This guy has mental problems, is ignorant, and lacks judgment. He should not be in charge of a lemonade, stand much less have a position as the head of our nation’s health agency. His father must be spinning in his grave.

Well this whole article made me google the water quality for cabin John creek where I sometimes let my kids and dog swim. Looks like water testing is that it’s usually well under target levels, except after major rains. (And I don’t let them put head under and they bathe right after.). I’ll admit I find the rain thing counter intuitive because it seems like more water would be safer (dilute the nasty stuff) but apparently it just washes too much stuff in from the yards.

Perhaps he should be arrested for breaking the law, and cps assess the situation in which he exposed children to criminal activity:

“ Columbia’s City Council voted to prohibit water-contact sports in District water bodies. The then Mayor-Commissioner enacted the swimming ban on August 27. View the National Archives copy of the District’s original swim ban. At the time, the ban was necessary to prevent illness. High amounts of fecal bacteria from combined sewer overflows polluted the Potomac and Anacostia Rivers and Rock Creek. In addition to the swimming ban, there are other District regulations and federal codes that prohibit swimming in the District.”

From
https://doee.dc.gov/service/water-quality-swimming#:~:text=The%20then%20Mayor%2DCommissioner%20enacted,Anacostia%20Rivers%20and%20Rock%20Creek.

Anonymous wrote:How gross.

But, why do we accept the fact that our waterways are so polluted that we shouldn’t touch them.

+1. Same reason people have accepted the fact that anything visible in your car will be stolen, if you leave your house door unlocked you deserve to be burglarized, if you ride the metro at the wrong hour you deserve to be mugged, and the city be full of litter and trash and police sirens at all hours is just how cities are. Strange times.

Let him swim in it, drink it, every day. However, this truly criminal to have those poor children put in danger.