Anonymous
05/10/2025 15:49
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Who's going to cut bait.
Is that a firm no they don't belong in competitive swimming at all?
I my daughter is bigger and more athletic than most girls. I feel protective of her. I feel like she shouldn't have to always compete against older kids or boys. It's not fun for her. Oh, goodie degenerate boys.
It doesn't take very many Brittany Griner's, Imane Khelif's and Lin Yu-ting's to turn women's athletics into a circus freak show. I'm going to take my daughter to see the Mystics play the Dream, are those her role models?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner
If they just swam rec league one summer, then figured out they don't belong in the girl's category. People would be OK with it, but there they are competing at the highest levels.
Every summer kids compete for club teams. Are they going to reserve spots for them.
What is Brittney Griner's PB for 50m back?
Sorry if you have trouble transcending different sports. People don't really follow swimming in the news but there is G Ryan.
https://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/story/_/id/18908049/michigan-wolverines-swimmer-g-ryan-aims-podium-ncaa-championships-taking-challenge-making-sports-more-inclusive?addata=espn:frontpage
Anonymous
05/10/2025 14:37
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Who's going to cut bait.
Is that a firm no they don't belong in competitive swimming at all?
I my daughter is bigger and more athletic than most girls. I feel protective of her. I feel like she shouldn't have to always compete against older kids or boys. It's not fun for her. Oh, goodie degenerate boys.
It doesn't take very many Brittany Griner's, Imane Khelif's and Lin Yu-ting's to turn women's athletics into a circus freak show. I'm going to take my daughter to see the Mystics play the Dream, are those her role models?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner
If they just swam rec league one summer, then figured out they don't belong in the girl's category. People would be OK with it, but there they are competing at the highest levels.
Every summer kids compete for club teams. Are they going to reserve spots for them.
What is Brittney Griner's PB for 50m back?
Anonymous
05/10/2025 13:38
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous
05/10/2025 13:35
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Who's going to cut bait.
Is that a firm no they don't belong in competitive swimming at all?
I my daughter is bigger and more athletic than most girls. I feel protective of her. I feel like she shouldn't have to always compete against older kids or boys. It's not fun for her. Oh, goodie degenerate boys.
It doesn't take very many Brittany Griner's, Imane Khelif's and Lin Yu-ting's to turn women's athletics into a circus freak show. I'm going to take my daughter to see the Mystics play the Dream, are those her role models?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner
If they just swam rec league one summer, then figured out they don't belong in the girl's category. People would be OK with it, but there they are competing at the highest levels.
Every summer kids compete for club teams. Are they going to reserve spots for them.
How do you fit Brittney Griner into this? She isn’t trans, she doesn’t have an identified DSD. Are we now excluding women based on being tall? Or gay? Or flat chested?
She has a Y chromosome. She even produces testosterone, but supposedly her body isn't sensitive to it.
But yeah, excluding trans from female athletics is a no brainer.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 12:21
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Who's going to cut bait.
Is that a firm no they don't belong in competitive swimming at all?
I my daughter is bigger and more athletic than most girls. I feel protective of her. I feel like she shouldn't have to always compete against older kids or boys. It's not fun for her. Oh, goodie degenerate boys.
It doesn't take very many Brittany Griner's, Imane Khelif's and Lin Yu-ting's to turn women's athletics into a circus freak show. I'm going to take my daughter to see the Mystics play the Dream, are those her role models?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner
If they just swam rec league one summer, then figured out they don't belong in the girl's category. People would be OK with it, but there they are competing at the highest levels.
Every summer kids compete for club teams. Are they going to reserve spots for them.
How do you fit Brittney Griner into this? She isn’t trans, she doesn’t have an identified DSD. Are we now excluding women based on being tall? Or gay? Or flat chested?
Anonymous
05/10/2025 12:10
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Jesus, what decade are you from that you think if girls can’t beat boys in an athletic competition then they just shouldn’t be competing.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 10:22
Subject: Re:MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Event 1 is 12 and under 100 IM.
NVSL parent here. Whatever, change the event number. That make it any less ridiculous?
Who cares? Who is this hurting?
You really think young boys aren’t going to be merciless to Pinocchios?
You think girls aren’t going to ask why they are swimming against Samantha when last year he was Samuel?
I think it will hurt the non-binary kid.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 09:07
Subject: MCSL gender policy
This is all ridiculous. Swimming isn’t gendered, it is by sex. The events are exactly the same for males and females. For those that identify as NB, identifying as such does not change their sex. For the one in a million with intersex conditions, let it be a case by case basis.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 09:01
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Who's going to cut bait.
Is that a firm no they don't belong in competitive swimming at all?
I my daughter is bigger and more athletic than most girls. I feel protective of her. I feel like she shouldn't have to always compete against older kids or boys. It's not fun for her. Oh, goodie degenerate boys.
It doesn't take very many Brittany Griner's, Imane Khelif's and Lin Yu-ting's to turn women's athletics into a circus freak show. I'm going to take my daughter to see the Mystics play the Dream, are those her role models?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner
If they just swam rec league one summer, then figured out they don't belong in the girl's category. People would be OK with it, but there they are competing at the highest levels.
Every summer kids compete for club teams. Are they going to reserve spots for them.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 08:56
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Our team has one non binary kid and they just choose a gender at beginning of season and race in those events. It’s a non issue.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 08:19
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Larla can not beat 18 year old boys who are halfway decent unless she is an Olympian.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 07:07
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Our summer team has one nonbinary child and that child selects which gender to race with at the start of the summer. I’ve always thought it odd and unnecessary that we break rec sports up by gender so much. I would be fine if we just swam all of summer league mixed gender, by age.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
If your Larla is there to win and can’t beat the boys, then maybe she shouldn’t be there. For most of the kids, this is about community and fun, not setting lame-ass pool records. Most of these kids will move on to real accomplishments in life after MCSL.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 17:02
Subject: Re:MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Event 1 is 12 and under 100 IM.
NVSL parent here. Whatever, change the event number. That make it any less ridiculous?
Who cares? Who is this hurting?
Anonymous
05/09/2025 16:28
Subject: Re:MCSL gender policy
Anonymous wrote:Event 1 is 12 and under 100 IM.
NVSL parent here. Whatever, change the event number. That make it any less ridiculous?
Anonymous
05/09/2025 16:25
Subject: MCSL gender policy
Our boys refer to my wife and I as “bruh”. Maybe that can be a non-gender category.