Anonymous
04/30/2025 20:33
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
Oh, the irony.
DP
Anonymous
04/30/2025 20:32
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.
All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.
Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx
NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 20:23
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Remember when it was all “ImMiGRanTs NeEd to FOllOw the sYsteM.”
And now they are but are getting deported for snowing up for appointments.
Almost makes it seem like it wasn’t the process and paperwork that was really the issue … 🤔
Anonymous
04/30/2025 20:21
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
*woke
Anonymous
04/30/2025 20:20
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.
DP. I've never heard of a "left-leaning" independent, but okay. Also, what do you define to be "political activity"? That is at the heart of the matter.
Based on other deportees, political activity would be defined as anything that puts Israel in an unfavorable light.
Goddamned snowflakes, losing their shit over political correctness, DEI, and their obsession with the wole boogeyman, only to make Israel the poster child for all of those things. <retch>
Anonymous
04/30/2025 19:47
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Tomorrow we will see this judge arrested for defying Trump/Zionists
Eventually the person who sneezes at the wrong time will also be arrested
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:49
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.
Which tells me you just assume there are no first amendment rights to non-citizens. Which is not the case, although the history here is limited. But constraints mostly apply when you are ENTERING the US, not once you have been lawfully admitted, and the longer you have lived here and established a life in the US the more protection you do have under the first. The first amendment said nothing about citizens vs non-citizens, although it does not specify persons particularly. And the Alien Enemies Act (the only one to survive the loathed Alien and Sedition Acts) is currently raising serious constitutional questions about the president's ability to invoke it; these have yet to be settled, but the history of its use certainly does not favor Trump. (Remember how Alito relied on abortion history to overturn Roe v Wade?)
Concurring opinion in 1945 Bridges decision, which overturned the govt attempt to deport a longtime immigrant over his Communist politics:
“… once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders. Such rights include those protected by the First and Fifth Amendments and by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. None of these provisions acknowledges any distinctions between citizens and resident aliens. They extend their inalienable privileges to all ‘persons’ and guard against any encroachment of those rights by federal or state authority. Indeed, this Court has previously and expressly recognized that Harry Bridges, the alien, possesses the right to free speech and free press and that the Constitution will defend him in the exercise of that right.”
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:49
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.
Thanks, but I'm hoping to hear form the PP who said "I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US."
DP. I've never heard of a "left-leaning" independent, but okay. Also, what do you define to be "political activity"? That is at the heart of the matter.
Based on other deportees, political activity would be defined as anything that puts Israel in an unfavorable light.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:47
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.
DP. I've never heard of a "left-leaning" independent, but okay. Also, what do you define to be "political activity"? That is at the heart of the matter.
Based on other deportees, political activity would be defined as anything that puts Israel in an unfavorable light.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:44
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.
DP. I've never heard of a "left-leaning" independent, but okay. Also, what do you define to be "political activity"? That is at the heart of the matter.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:41
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cue the radical, extremist (unAmerican) Zionist outrage …
Over what? Guy got bail. Has no bearing on the ultimate disposition of his case.
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https://www.novarae.org/literacy
Lol. I’m a lawyer. You?
If you were a lawyer (or had reading comprehension), you'd know that he wasn't released on bail.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:39
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cue the radical, extremist (unAmerican) Zionist outrage …
Over what? Guy got bail. Has no bearing on the ultimate disposition of his case.
Over Chosen People edicts in flagrant violation of U.S. law being dunked on by a member if the judiciary!
“Chosen People”? Ugly stuff.
Foreigner comes to US, founds terrorist-supporting organization (CUAD) that calls for “instruction” from “militants in the Global South”.
Foreigner gets detained pending deportation.
Foreigner receives due process and is released on bond pending adjudication on the merits.
Nothing particularly surprising here.
The pending claims are these:
1) Assume jurisdiction over this matter;
2) Vacate and set aside Respondents’ unlawful Policy of targeting noncitizens for
removal based on First Amendment protected speech advocating for Palestinian
rights;
3) Vacate and set aside the Rubio Determination;
4) Enjoin Respondents from transferring the Petitioner from the jurisdiction of this
District pending these proceedings;
5) Order the immediate release of Petitioner pending these proceedings;
6) Order the release of Petitioner;
7) Declare that Respondents’ actions to arrest and detain Petitioner violate the First
Amendment and the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment, as well as the
Administrative Procedure Act and the non-delegation doctrine;
8) Award reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs for this action; and
9) Grant such further relief as the Court deems just and proper.
There's nothing in the complaint mentioning a deportation order, and nothing in the order releasing him. He is required to live in Vermont, can travel to NY for classes, and has to attend hearings. But the pending litigation is all about the govt's bill of rights violations. He is the plaintiff here.
Hi Chat GPT. Complete waste of time.
Copy pasted from the complaint. Idiot.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/mahdawi-habeas-petition-april-14-2025.pdf
And here's the order.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vtd.39338/gov.uscourts.vtd.39338.54.0.pdf
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:35
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
Protesting what, exactly? Something black churches are doing to white people? Are there synagogues on the Columbia campus?
I wonder if any foreign students took part in the Columbia student takeover in 1968. Protesting the war but also a gym to be built on public land in a black neighborhood but with only limited access to neighborhood residents. (BTW I was able to buy the book, The Strawberry Statement, by a student protestor through Scholastic Books. Nobody was threatening to pull federal funding from our school for facilitating the purchase of books very much against US military policy--yet we thought the establishment was reactionary then!)
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:35
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cue the radical, extremist (unAmerican) Zionist outrage …
Over what? Guy got bail. Has no bearing on the ultimate disposition of his case.
Over Chosen People edicts in flagrant violation of U.S. law being dunked on by a member if the judiciary!
“Chosen People”? Ugly stuff.
Foreigner comes to US, founds terrorist-supporting organization (CUAD) that calls for “instruction” from “militants in the Global South”.
Foreigner gets detained pending deportation.
Foreigner receives due process and is released on bond pending adjudication on the merits.
Nothing particularly surprising here.
The pending claims are these:
1) Assume jurisdiction over this matter;
2) Vacate and set aside Respondents’ unlawful Policy of targeting noncitizens for
removal based on First Amendment protected speech advocating for Palestinian
rights;
3) Vacate and set aside the Rubio Determination;
4) Enjoin Respondents from transferring the Petitioner from the jurisdiction of this
District pending these proceedings;
5) Order the immediate release of Petitioner pending these proceedings;
6) Order the release of Petitioner;
7) Declare that Respondents’ actions to arrest and detain Petitioner violate the First
Amendment and the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment, as well as the
Administrative Procedure Act and the non-delegation doctrine;
8) Award reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs for this action; and
9) Grant such further relief as the Court deems just and proper.
There's nothing in the complaint mentioning a deportation order, and nothing in the order releasing him. He is required to live in Vermont, can travel to NY for classes, and has to attend hearings. But the pending litigation is all about the govt's bill of rights violations. He is the plaintiff here.
Hi Chat GPT. Complete waste of time.
Anonymous
04/30/2025 17:34
Subject: Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.
Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?
Didn’t think so.
I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.
Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.
You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:
Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?
Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?
This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.
You still haven’t answered the question!
Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.
I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.