Anonymous wrote:Twerking is a dance form that originated in central Africa and kept alive by slaves to keep connection to their culture, even used as a form of rebellion.

It’s uptight weirdos and perverted men who turn it into something sexual. It’s perfectly fine for people to move their pelvis to dance, and it someone wants to project their ideas of sex onto it, that’s their problem.

You’re sexualizing little girls. You’re the problem. I’m guessing you don’t tell little boys they need to avoid doing certain things, because you don’t see the male body as inherently sexual like you do the female body.

That is entirely unsupported by evidence, PP. Twerking came to the fore in the 90s in New Orleans in the African diaspora communities, and it was DIRECTLY linked to sexual signaling, since some of it was pushed out from brothels and assimilated businesses. There is no direct link to any specific dance or specific African culture from actual Africa, but the New Orleans diaspora it originated from generally speaks Bantu, a group of languages spoken across multiple central and southern African countries.

Ergo: yes, it is a sexualized dance originally. And please do not confuse diaspora artistic creations with country-of-origin artistic creations (regardless of which ethnicity and region of the world you're considering). Some diasporas are so ancient and/or so dynamic, that they've spawned their own specific cultural nodes.

It's vulgar, but the kids don't understand the sexual connotations, and the parents are lax and allow it.

What are you going to do? Change the mindset of millions of families? This is today's world, OP.

Anonymous wrote:I teach kindergarten and have students twerk. They copy whatever they see on TikTok, IG, YouTube, etc. Sone of them come to school wearing very inappropriate clothing too. They have fake nails. So many of the girls seek validation that they look good. “Aren’t my nails beautiful?” It’s sad.

Yes, it’s sad. But no less sad than “check out my Audi or new Coach handbag”. Or the ones that don’t have that are going on about their moral superiority over somehow not wanting these things, but casting judgement on the things they don’t want. It’s not a high ground if you’re scooping judgmental poop to be up there.

Anonymous wrote:I teach kindergarten and have students twerk. They copy whatever they see on TikTok, IG, YouTube, etc. Sone of them come to school wearing very inappropriate clothing too. They have fake nails. So many of the girls seek validation that they look good. “Aren’t my nails beautiful?” It’s sad.

What is inappropriate about fake nails? They’re cute, fun, and make the kids feel great.

My kid could care less about nails, as they get in her way. One of her slightly older friends has a mom who was an aesthetician and she always has the cutest nails. My kid, on the flip side, loves to color her hair. So I won’t bleach it because I don’t want to damage it, but I don’t care about whatever color she wants to do it in. This is her time to figure who she is out and none of it does her or anyone else any harm. I also don’t police her clothes. She’s kind of partial to the Billie Eilish big baggy look, but as long as it’s clean, in good repair, appropriate to season as far as her not being cold or overheating, and it’s not a special event that requires a certain costume, why do I need to tell her what makes her happy and comfortable in her skin?

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

How repressed of you.

Happy to be “repressed” and to “repress” my children, if it means they have decorum.

Yeah, their 'decorum' is going to Handmaid's Tale up this world, unfortunately with parents like you.

I teach kindergarten and have students twerk. They copy whatever they see on TikTok, IG, YouTube, etc. Sone of them come to school wearing very inappropriate clothing too. They have fake nails. So many of the girls seek validation that they look good. “Aren’t my nails beautiful?” It’s sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

So - women are sluts when they are comfortable in their skins and know what men want, and are willing to use it to their advantage? Got it.

Ugh, I have forever burned into my brain a 5 year old twerking in front of me, on the kitchen table, laughing uncontrollably in only underwear singing “achy breaky heart”. I don’t think it was called twerking then, but it’s pretty much the same moves my kid replicates now.

In any case, the offending original twerker is now in his late 30s, an amazing father, is well read, well spoken, and interesting human, has a very respectable and decorated military career, and is my baby brother.

None of this is new.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

And rock music and dancing were considered the same 60 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

How repressed of you.

Happy to be “repressed” and to “repress” my children, if it means they have decorum.

I was friends with all of the "repressed" kids. Those are the ones that go crazy once they hit 18 and mom isn't breathing down their neck.

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Anonymous wrote:Twerking is a dance form that originated in central Africa and kept alive by slaves to keep connection to their culture, even used as a form of rebellion.

It’s uptight weirdos and perverted men who turn it into something sexual. It’s perfectly fine for people to move their pelvis to dance, and it someone wants to project their ideas of sex onto it, that’s their problem.

You’re sexualizing little girls. You’re the problem. I’m guessing you don’t tell little boys they need to avoid doing certain things, because you don’t see the male body as inherently sexual like you do the female body.

NP

Wow. You seem to be the one sexualizing children and, even worse, you condone it.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

How repressed of you.

Happy to be “repressed” and to “repress” my children, if it means they have decorum.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

How repressed of you.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. My 9 year old boy doesn’t do that. He doesn’t have an iPad or cell phone and only watches cartoons. It doesn’t “have” to be this way.

Little girls doing dances that are relevant for their time is gross? And somehow it’s meaningful that your boy does not do the same dances as the little girls?

Is twerking (or whatever variation they managed) some sort of gateway to….what? Better dancing? Fun memories with friends?

Yes. Twerking is gross, as is much of modern sexualized TikTok dancing. It’s a gateway to being a slut, like their mothers likely are.

Anonymous wrote:Twerking is a dance form that originated in central Africa and kept alive by slaves to keep connection to their culture, even used as a form of rebellion.

It’s uptight weirdos and perverted men who turn it into something sexual. It’s perfectly fine for people to move their pelvis to dance, and it someone wants to project their ideas of sex onto it, that’s their problem.

You’re sexualizing little girls. You’re the problem. I’m guessing you don’t tell little boys they need to avoid doing certain things, because you don’t see the male body as inherently sexual like you do the female body.

NP

Wow. You seem to be the one sexualizing children and, even worse, you condone it.