Anonymous wrote:Why would they be freaking out? I’ve yet to meet a Trump supporter that cares about a couple bad market days.

They cared a whole lot about bad days in the other administration, despite the overall growth.

He has brought civil war, but that was last term, this is not new.

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Anonymous wrote:I actively wish bad things for Trump supporters.

First of all, your wishing will never make it so.

Secondly, carrying that level of bitterness will be harmful to YOU. Whatever time and energy you futilely spend wishing ill to others is time you could spend doing positive things for your own benefit and enjoyment. Maintaining that level of stress and negativity can have any number of physical ramifications for you (high blood pressure, headaches, indigestion, sleep problems, etc.)

Finally, we are all interconnected. Whatever harm does befall Trump supporters will have unknown consequences for our country as a whole, and by extension, possibly yourself. From John Donne’s, “Ask not (never send to know) for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee”, to the more modern concept of the butterfly effect, there seems to be an underlying truth that the complex web that surrounds and encompasses us can be affected in countless unknown ways by the smallest and most remote changes. The Trump supporter that you wish ill towards might be your biggest customer that makes the difference between your business flourishing and failing, the firefighter that saves your house from burning down, or the Alzheimer’s researcher who saves you from losing your mind - if they manage to escape the bad things you wish them.

So we are all supposed to look the other way when Trump supporters turn into a dysfunctional fascist Handmaid Tales nation?

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Absolutely not! We can and need to try to save our country. By all means, lobby your representatives, write editorials, donate to and/or volunteer for campaigns, peacefully protest, run for office, etc. We need to oppose the POLITICIANS who are instituting the POLICIES that are destroying our country. If we have any hope of making any progress, we need to recruit their supporters, not reinforce their commitment to the MAGA cult. Look at Bernie Sanders and AOC - instead of gloating at Republican districts and wishing them ill, they’re reaching out to those districts and volunteering to have town halls.

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Anonymous wrote:I actively wish bad things for Trump supporters.

First of all, your wishing will never make it so.

Secondly, carrying that level of bitterness will be harmful to YOU. Whatever time and energy you futilely spend wishing ill to others is time you could spend doing positive things for your own benefit and enjoyment. Maintaining that level of stress and negativity can have any number of physical ramifications for you (high blood pressure, headaches, indigestion, sleep problems, etc.)

Finally, we are all interconnected. Whatever harm does befall Trump supporters will have unknown consequences for our country as a whole, and by extension, possibly yourself. From John Donne’s, “Ask not (never send to know) for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee”, to the more modern concept of the butterfly effect, there seems to be an underlying truth that the complex web that surrounds and encompasses us can be affected in countless unknown ways by the smallest and most remote changes. The Trump supporter that you wish ill towards might be your biggest customer that makes the difference between your business flourishing and failing, the firefighter that saves your house from burning down, or the Alzheimer’s researcher who saves you from losing your mind - if they manage to escape the bad things you wish them.

So we are all supposed to look the other way when Trump supporters turn into a dysfunctional fascist Handmaid Tales nation?

Anonymous wrote:You sound miserable and horrible to be around. Glad my sister isn’t like you!

Hahaha.

Funny.

You sound miserable and horrible to be around. Glad my sister isn’t like you!

Anonymous wrote:I actively wish bad things for Trump supporters.

I wish them the full impact of the cruel, terrible man they voted for.

Anonymous wrote:I actively wish bad things for Trump supporters.

First of all, your wishing will never make it so.

Secondly, carrying that level of bitterness will be harmful to YOU. Whatever time and energy you futilely spend wishing ill to others is time you could spend doing positive things for your own benefit and enjoyment. Maintaining that level of stress and negativity can have any number of physical ramifications for you (high blood pressure, headaches, indigestion, sleep problems, etc.)

Finally, we are all interconnected. Whatever harm does befall Trump supporters will have unknown consequences for our country as a whole, and by extension, possibly yourself. From John Donne’s, “Ask not (never send to know) for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee”, to the more modern concept of the butterfly effect, there seems to be an underlying truth that the complex web that surrounds and encompasses us can be affected in countless unknown ways by the smallest and most remote changes. The Trump supporter that you wish ill towards might be your biggest customer that makes the difference between your business flourishing and failing, the firefighter that saves your house from burning down, or the Alzheimer’s researcher who saves you from losing your mind - if they manage to escape the bad things you wish them.

You and your sister seem cut from the same cloth to me, OP.

I actively wish bad things for Trump supporters.

Yes, Trump is a disaster for both the general health of the country and, specifically, the economy.

Yes, many (apparently including your sister) were taken in by him and hold unreasonable loyalty to him.

Yes, Trump is divisive and tries to drive wedges between Americans that he can exploit.

But. . .

you think your sister is hurting and afraid. While I fully understand the inclination to say, “I told you so” (we all did), seeing someone you love suffering isn’t something to gloat over. You can give up on your sister and give Trump another win, or you can be the bigger person (we already know you’re wiser) and reach out with love, yet again and be there for her. I wouldn’t expect her to have learned her lesson, but your grace and love might eventually break through.

As bad as things are now, I fully expect them to get much, much worse. Honestly, I’m still not sure if Trump is deliberately trying to destroy America, but that’s what he’s doing. Economically, I think we’re headed for (at best) a major depression, and quite possibly a full economic collapse. The only way we’re going to get through it is if we put the bitterness aside and stand together as fellow Americans, and especially as families.

I truly hope I’m being paranoid and that Trump’s damages are somehow restrained, but even so, every life has some kind of problems. (Loving) families are too precious to let anything external divide you. I would hope that for the sake of both your sister and yourself (and everyone else in the family as well), that you focus on maintaining the familial bond and just put politics to the side.

Anonymous wrote:The market is recovering. Your sister is fine and is probably not thinking of you.

The damage is done that trust is not there any longer. There is no stability. The market does not like volatility, and the diktator saying and doing what he wants is the definition of volatility. His handlers are at wit's end.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, rest assured if they were worried about the stock market under biden, they are absolutely $hiTTINg themselves now. Billions have been lost. BILLIONS. Just google "how much have people lost in ..." and google will wrap it up for you with 401Ks, other data with very real numbers impacting very real people.

There's no chance she got out of the market or is IN with the Trump crowd making money off the dips. She's up the creek. I'd wait to see if she volunteers anything. Just be satisfied that she's horrified. Seriously.

Good points.

Except there is a very good chance Sister is not sh!tting herself, is not horrified, nor worried if her finances have taken a hit.

This is because she is a member of a cult. Just as cult members gleefully give over every single asset they have, to be in the leader's circle. It is a mental illness and won't go away without deprogramming.

She is always worried about money, though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, rest assured if they were worried about the stock market under biden, they are absolutely $hiTTINg themselves now. Billions have been lost. BILLIONS. Just google "how much have people lost in ..." and google will wrap it up for you with 401Ks, other data with very real numbers impacting very real people.

There's no chance she got out of the market or is IN with the Trump crowd making money off the dips. She's up the creek. I'd wait to see if she volunteers anything. Just be satisfied that she's horrified. Seriously.

Good points.

Except there is a very good chance Sister is not sh!tting herself, is not horrified, nor worried if her finances have taken a hit.

This is because she is a member of a cult. Just as cult members gleefully give over every single asset they have, to be in the leader's circle. It is a mental illness and won't go away without deprogramming.

She is always worried about money, though.

Because fox News told her to worry about it, they are telling her it's fine and short term pain for gain and trump is telling her grocery prices are down so she feels safe. Her perception will beat out reality, that's how propaganda works, look at the support for dictators where media is highly controlled. They have room to push greater losses to American wealth and infringe on more rights without losing support. Obviously prices are up and if everything had stayed the exact same with a slightly better stock market under Harris, fox would be telling her the country was on the brink of collapse and her money was evaporating (even if her stocks were doing better) and she would be sure it's true.

Yes, they are total Fox News addict. It sure keeps them dumb.