Anonymous wrote:The majority of people I know with lots of kids (3-4+) are either very wealthy or very poor and living off the system. I am MC ($300K HHI) as are most of my friends. We all only want 1-2 kids because we cannot afford more.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

exactly who gets harmed with lower birthrates?

our nation is already overwhelmed with too many people.

please explain the problem with a lower birthrate?

What are you talking about? We don’t have enough people! If you had your dream and got rid of all the brown people who would pick our props? Who would care for our elderly? Who would build our houses? there aren’t enough white people to do the work.

Anonymous wrote:If you want a higher birth rate, baby bonuses don’t work. They need to address the housing problem, the economic uncertainty, and the unavailability of daycare/expense of daycare. Men also need to modernize their approach to marriage and family. (Gift article)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BU8.NtkN.WagWczUEi5e6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

They don’t care about any of that extra stuff. They don’t care if your kid gets to do any activities, if they go to college or don’t have to share a bedroom with siblings. A lot of Americans have a pretty good standard of living (not everyone, but most) and are unwilling to penny pinch just to have another child.

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Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

They don’t care about any of that extra stuff. They don’t care if your kid gets to do any activities, if they go to college or don’t have to share a bedroom with siblings. A lot of Americans have a pretty good standard of living (not everyone, but most) and are unwilling to penny pinch just to have another child.

Anonymous wrote:Housing is unaffordable, so people can’t afford a home big enough for a family - let alone a large family of 4+ kids. Also the current standard of living for MC+ families is stuff like travel sports (expensive and time consuming), decent travel as a family (expensive and logistically difficult with more kids), and at least partially paying for college (very $$$). Day care is also $$$ and that comes at a time when couples are relatively younger and making a bit less money and can hardly afford it.

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Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Republicans are so gross. How does this square with current MAGA idol Musk’s proclivity to shipping his seed to random women?

Anonymous wrote:One clue on where the pronatalist agenda of the Trump administration is coming from:

*Project 2025, the policy blueprint that has forecast much of Mr. Trump’s agenda so far, discusses family issues before anything else, opening its first chapter with a promise to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life.”

*Much of the movement is built around promoting a very specific idea of what constitutes a family — one that includes marriage between a man and a woman, and leaves out many families that don’t conform to traditional gender roles or family structures.

The article ends with this exhortation from Dear Leader--get to it, mamas!

*Mr. Trump himself weighed in on the issue at the Conservative Political Action Conference in 2023, with a statement that has become a rallying cry for many in the movement.

“We will support baby booms and we will support baby bonuses for a new baby boom,” Mr. Trump said. “I want a baby boom.”

Anonymous wrote:These are some of the more "interesting" proposals being considered to boost fertility in the US that are mentioned in the article:

*Reserving 30% of Fulbright scholarships for married applicants or those with children. [I thought the current admin was eliminating the Fullbright program?]

*Providing a $5,000 “baby bonus” for new mothers. [But how are they going to ensure that it motivates the "right" kind of women to have more babies?]

*Funding programs to teach women about their menstrual cycles and fertility awareness. [I'm all for women knowing more about their bodies, but conservatives have been attacking sex ed programs for decades].

*National Medal of Motherhood for women with 6+ children. [Gives Soviet Union vibes.]