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Anonymous wrote:I'm being told that there is a pecking order at Penn that is felt by the kids and wider world. as in, "You went to Penn? Wharton?" "No, I was in the college of arts and sciences." "Oh never mind"

I'm older so that's def not my experience. Penn is Penn.

But is there a feeling currently on campus that kids in CAS are second tier citizens?

My son is a current sophomore at Penn Engineering. The engineering students think all of the Wharton students are "bricks." From their point of view the classes are too easy and they tend to poke fun. My son took a few classes at Wharton (law and another business related class) and liked it, but they weren't hard. I do think the vibe is that the Wharton kids think of themselves as top of the food chain so to speak. CAS seems to get no love at all.

My Engineer agrees. Wharton classes are known to be easy. SEAS kids are known as the smartest and also have the hardest classes and have higher starting salaries than Wharton.

Actually, the kids I am most impressed by are the M&T kids who combine Wharton and Engineering.

You have a very engineering-centric view of the world. The "I'm an engineer and I work harder and gain practical skills" mentality is very FOTB and short sighted. Engineering is very demanding and impressive but suffering through it does not make your kid a better person. Nor does it make them a worse person. But the mindset you seem to be demonstrating is the type that takes your kid to the top engineering job (which is impressive) but not the C-suite.

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Anonymous wrote:30+ years when I applied to college I debated applying to Wharton vs. CAS. I thought I wanted business and as a kid who skewed heavy towards math, my odds were actually likely better at Wharton.

I didn't want to get to Penn and then regret not being in Wharton - much easier to transfer out of Wharton than in.

I got in but chose another peer school as an econ major. I had a happier college experience than I would have had in West Philly. Worked in finance then ended up at Wharton for MBA.

A much higher percentage of Wharton undergrads are obnoxious and egotistical than CAS. But definitely far from all of them.

The kids really do stick to West Philly which surprises me. Outside of the Quad freshman year, a lot of the dorms are sandwiched between Paneras, McDonalds, Acme style places and it's just kind of a drag.

No one calls it "west philly" they say university city, which it is, and most students go from campus across the river into the actual city to eat, shop, farmers market, shows, and of course the Eagles superbowl victory night and the daytime parade a few days later

Penn grad with dc there now and say W Philly not UC.

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Anonymous wrote:30+ years when I applied to college I debated applying to Wharton vs. CAS. I thought I wanted business and as a kid who skewed heavy towards math, my odds were actually likely better at Wharton.

I didn't want to get to Penn and then regret not being in Wharton - much easier to transfer out of Wharton than in.

I got in but chose another peer school as an econ major. I had a happier college experience than I would have had in West Philly. Worked in finance then ended up at Wharton for MBA.

A much higher percentage of Wharton undergrads are obnoxious and egotistical than CAS. But definitely far from all of them.

The kids really do stick to West Philly which surprises me. Outside of the Quad freshman year, a lot of the dorms are sandwiched between Paneras, McDonalds, Acme style places and it's just kind of a drag.

No one calls it "west philly" they say university city, which it is, and most students go from campus across the river into the actual city to eat, shop, farmers market, shows, and of course the Eagles superbowl victory night and the daytime parade a few days later

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Anonymous wrote:I'm being told that there is a pecking order at Penn that is felt by the kids and wider world. as in, "You went to Penn? Wharton?" "No, I was in the college of arts and sciences." "Oh never mind"

I'm older so that's def not my experience. Penn is Penn.

But is there a feeling currently on campus that kids in CAS are second tier citizens?

My son is a current sophomore at Penn Engineering. The engineering students think all of the Wharton students are "bricks." From their point of view the classes are too easy and they tend to poke fun. My son took a few classes at Wharton (law and another business related class) and liked it, but they weren't hard. I do think the vibe is that the Wharton kids think of themselves as top of the food chain so to speak. CAS seems to get no love at all.

My Engineer agrees. Wharton classes are known to be easy. SEAS kids are known as the smartest and also have the hardest classes and have higher starting salaries than Wharton.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm being told that there is a pecking order at Penn that is felt by the kids and wider world. as in, "You went to Penn? Wharton?" "No, I was in the college of arts and sciences." "Oh never mind"

I'm older so that's def not my experience. Penn is Penn.

But is there a feeling currently on campus that kids in CAS are second tier citizens?

My son is a current sophomore at Penn Engineering. The engineering students think all of the Wharton students are "bricks." From their point of view the classes are too easy and they tend to poke fun. My son took a few classes at Wharton (law and another business related class) and liked it, but they weren't hard. I do think the vibe is that the Wharton kids think of themselves as top of the food chain so to speak. CAS seems to get no love at all.

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Anonymous wrote:30+ years when I applied to college I debated applying to Wharton vs. CAS. I thought I wanted business and as a kid who skewed heavy towards math, my odds were actually likely better at Wharton.

I didn't want to get to Penn and then regret not being in Wharton - much easier to transfer out of Wharton than in.

I got in but chose another peer school as an econ major. I had a happier college experience than I would have had in West Philly. Worked in finance then ended up at Wharton for MBA.

A much higher percentage of Wharton undergrads are obnoxious and egotistical than CAS. But definitely far from all of them.

The kids really do stick to West Philly which surprises me. Outside of the Quad freshman year, a lot of the dorms are sandwiched between Paneras, McDonalds, Acme style places and it's just kind of a drag.

No one calls it "west philly" they say university city, which it is, and most students go from campus across the river into the actual city to eat, shop, farmers market, shows, and of course the Eagles superbowl victory night and the daytime parade a few days later

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Anonymous wrote:30+ years when I applied to college I debated applying to Wharton vs. CAS. I thought I wanted business and as a kid who skewed heavy towards math, my odds were actually likely better at Wharton.

I didn't want to get to Penn and then regret not being in Wharton - much easier to transfer out of Wharton than in.

I got in but chose another peer school as an econ major. I had a happier college experience than I would have had in West Philly. Worked in finance then ended up at Wharton for MBA.

A much higher percentage of Wharton undergrads are obnoxious and egotistical than CAS. But definitely far from all of them.

The kids really do stick to West Philly which surprises me. Outside of the Quad freshman year, a lot of the dorms are sandwiched between Paneras, McDonalds, Acme style places and it's just kind of a drag.

This is a strange description. My kid goes to downtown Philly a ton, as do many Penn kids...though also takes advantage of lots to do on-campus and yes will utilize West Philly for essentials.

I would say 90%+ of student housing/dorms based on the number of kids in those dorms, don't fit your description above. The high-rise dorms of course are directly on campus, then you have the quad...then you have Lauder and Hill House (again, not wedged between any of the fast food/fast casual restaurants you mention)...then you have Guttman which is also directly on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:30+ years when I applied to college I debated applying to Wharton vs. CAS. I thought I wanted business and as a kid who skewed heavy towards math, my odds were actually likely better at Wharton.

I didn't want to get to Penn and then regret not being in Wharton - much easier to transfer out of Wharton than in.

I got in but chose another peer school as an econ major. I had a happier college experience than I would have had in West Philly. Worked in finance then ended up at Wharton for MBA.

A much higher percentage of Wharton undergrads are obnoxious and egotistical than CAS. But definitely far from all of them.

The kids really do stick to West Philly which surprises me. Outside of the Quad freshman year, a lot of the dorms are sandwiched between Paneras, McDonalds, Acme style places and it's just kind of a drag.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s been a debate over years cas vs Wharton. It all depends on the student and his ability to get into the Wharton clubs. Penn engineering is great and if your goal is the quant clubs doable but it’s definitely easier the Wharton route. I am not sure if it’s still very very difficult. To transfer into Wharton from cas my guess it’s the same.

The Wharton Quant and similar Clubs are literally all run by Penn Engineering/Math kids.