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Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

Sending people to the prison is not a morally or legally acceptable way to handle non citizens who are in the US.

Yes it is. Illegal invaders do not have the same rights as citizens. With jail on the table instead of a warm welcome from the Biden administration, fewer will come. Our government officials get paid to help citizens, not illegals. Dems don’t agree, which is why they are out of power

Anonymous wrote:It's the same as with school shooters and "terrorists".

Law enforcement doesn't go after dangerous people who can fight back. They go after patsies, chuds, and innocent people.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

Sending people to the prison is not a morally or legally acceptable way to handle non citizens who are in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:If anything, they were murdering other gang members, not passersby.

Try teaching gang members and then come back and reply to me.

Initiation is brutal. Turf fights don't stay in the neighborhoods.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

We all agree maga is the problem but deporting them to El Salvador will spread the problem.

Stop deflecting; it's highlighting your ignorance.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia was apparently sent here - illegally - to escape Barrio 18, which has a presence in the US. It's in Maryland for that matter. You don't escape a gang w/o first joining a rival for protection. MS 13 is a rival. This gang has had a large presence in Maryland, especially in PG County and parts of Montgomery that border PG. I know; I taught them. They stay under the radar unless pushed. Once pushed, turf wars creep into the schools.

Apparently, his brother, now legal, was here first. If that's the case, why didn't Kilmar go through legal measures with the help of his supposedly legal brother? Furthermore, how convenient was it to marry his girlfriend, also a citizen, while behind bars in 2019? And now they are questioning his affiliation with MS-13 - again, Barrio 18's rival.

Give me a break. Gang members will rat out each other if they bargain.

For the record, this is typical protocol - https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ms-13-forced-teenage-girl-into-prostitution-in-montgomery-county-officials-say
I was teaching at the time the story broke.
2019

Maybe people need to 1) ask more questions and 2) rely on others with experience in this topic.

I'm using the site below, which definitely has a liberal slant. But I question the entire story, as there are far too many holes.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13--what-do-we-know
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know? Roger Parloff

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, they were murdering other gang members, not passersby.

Try teaching gang members and then come back and reply to me.

Initiation is brutal. Turf fights don't stay in the neighborhoods.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

We all agree maga is the problem but deporting them to El Salvador will spread the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

Deterrence. Nice. As long as it’s other people and not you and yours.
You all are some sick sheltered people that believe this stink isn’t going to eventually get to you.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a LA neighborhood (in the valley) claimed by ms13. Jeff can check my location if you think I’m a sock puppet. MS13 regularly tags my apartment building and there are regular shootings and violence a few streets away. Please don’t tell me to move, I paid $350 for my condo and can't buy anything for that price in LA, not in a gang area. I literally don’t care st all about anyone being deported who is part of ms13, suspected part of ms13, or in this country illegally and falsely being accused of ms13. I’d rather they get rid of people and make a few mistakes, than have to live like this. MS13 is very scary.

MS 13 is very scary. I am very sorry you are living with this.

You know who isn't scary? Kilmar Abrego Garcia. The mistake is is not that they think he is a gang member. They 100% know he isn't. The mistake is that they are too dumb to even due their job well enough to notice the withholding from removal. Just like they didn't know Mahmoud Kahlil's status.

You know who is also not even a tiny bit scary? The totally legal Venezuelans who were awaiting asylum hearings and have never been accused of anything in their lives. Nobody in the Trump administration thinks they are gang members. They are just doing a publicity stunt and thought we wouldn't care.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people make the leap from “ms-13 is scary” to green lighting sending people to a prison where they’ll be tortured based solely on their country of origin? Deporting people here unlawfully is understandable. Sending them to be tortured in a prison is not understandable.

The latest guy from Dale City that Blondi is claiming is a top MS 13 leader is 24 and wandering in someone’s garage. If MS 13 is such a notorious criminal enterprise, why are poor kids running it? Other leaders that have been arrested are 50+ years old.

It’s called deterrence, and it’s working.

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Anonymous wrote:"Tren de Agua" and "MS-13" are supposedly armed to teeth and took over our cities. They murder civilians for sport.

Trump is sending thousands of them an El Salvador death camp.

Why are none of these "terrorists" and "hardened criminals" shooting back at ICE?

Did I misunderstand the theat we faced?

“Tren de Agua” maybe has a 100 members in the US. ”MS-13” has about 10,000 members in the US. MS-13 was started in the 1980 to protect El Salvador immigrants from other gangs. The vast majority of its members are now US citizens because they were born here. 10,000 is about 1% of all the gangs in the US. Though the Federal agencies do not have good gang data. The Republicans have defunded most of the strategies and operations to monitor these kinds of things. Interesting thing with MA-13 is when the US deported gang members in 1990’s MS-13 spread and took over El Salvador.

None of the 238 people kidnapped and sent to El Salvador have been charged or appeared in US courts. There is no proof that any of these people did anything, are gang members or committed any crime. Nothing has been presented in US courts. So we do not know if they are even illegals.

we know at least one person sent to El Salvador illegally is not in a gang. There are probably more.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, they were murdering other gang members, not passersby.

Try teaching gang members and then come back and reply to me.

Initiation is brutal. Turf fights don't stay in the neighborhoods.

Ignorance is bliss, eh?

We all agree maga is the problem but deporting them to El Salvador will spread the problem.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is beautiful. Dems denying that MS-13 is a problem. This is a political party that will surely enjoy a surge of popularity soon!