Anonymous wrote:They have a percentage of kids with inflated GPAs from public HS and first gen/URM from disadvantaged school systems that need catch up. Get A in class and cant get a 4-5 on AP exam and such.

that would not be an issue if colleges resumed using sat IIs or required Ap scores for ap classes

Thankfully this should right itself with the incoming class at Harvard as SATs were required. DS got a 5 on Calc BC- I don’t expect he’ll need remedial math

Anonymous wrote:For any admit? What joke.

Because of a combination of test optional and holistic admission.

For athletes, students who have rich full pay parents, and students who did well at bad schools.

It’s one thing to have a few random students who need extra support. It’s another to admit that an entire cohort isn’t prepared.

When we were touring colleges and the tour guides would rattle off all the support services available for students — 24/7 walk in writing support centers, tutoring centers, study habits counseling, interview prep, etc etc (none of which was available when I went to college) — it occurred to me that at least some of the increase in college “administrative costs” were these sort of support systems for kids that aren’t really ready for college (it can’t all be climbing walls). Colleges are judged on the economic and racial diversity of admissions, and then they are judged if those kids don’t graduate. When even the support systems aren’t enough, they have to water down the academics. Whether you think it’s a good thing or not, the singular focus economic and racial diversity in colleges has a cost, both in terms of money and academic prestige.

If you question the term “singular focus,” go read the press release for an Ivy League school re: admissions and see what the first thing mentioned is. Hint: it’s not “we just admitted the best qualified/most accomplished class in history.”

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action abs DEI admits just like what has been done to TJ in the name of DEI.

Post your source for this offensive nonsense. It’s garbage.

The fact that TJ started to offer remedial math classes couple years after they changed the admission system to a DEI admission system.

Disgusting how they ruined the best high school in the country to one having remedial students.

All in the name of DEI and with no regard for Asian parents or Asian students as long as they get to pander to the politically advantages group. Sickening.

I don't understand why this affects only Asian parents and students.
Doesn't it affect everyone at the school?

The irony is that this sounds like the persecution complex umbrage disadvantaged groups hold, i.e. the DEI groups this poster is ranting about.

Well, exactly. DEI is an attempt to remedy the impacts of historical discrimination on certain racial groups by discriminating against different racial groups.

They have a percentage of kids with inflated GPAs from public HS and first gen/URM from disadvantaged school systems that need catch up. Get A in class and cant get a 4-5 on AP exam and such.

My kid is crushing it first year at Ivy- won a departmental award in a subject i would have thought was a weakness. also- glowing reviews on first term paper. Thankful very preoared ftom rigorpus prep school

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Anonymous wrote:My relative teaches at a HYP school (math). They have remedial math as many kids miss pre calc concepts in a rush to other classes and then can't do higher level concepts which aren't spoon fed like in HS.

This is the key! The race to be the furthest ahead means cutting corners at the lower levels. This is why many private and some public high schools have allowed the math track down. Some of these kids are just memorizing the formulas and don’t have a deep understanding. Couple that with grade inflation and the weak foundation emerges in college.

that means the tests are too easy. The us track of alg 1, algebra 2, precalc is ridiculous slow

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action abs DEI admits just like what has been done to TJ in the name of DEI.

Post your source for this offensive nonsense. It’s garbage.

The fact that TJ started to offer remedial math classes couple years after they changed the admission system to a DEI admission system.

Disgusting how they ruined the best high school in the country to one having remedial students.

All in the name of DEI and with no regard for Asian parents or Asian students as long as they get to pander to the politically advantages group. Sickening.

I don't understand why this affects only Asian parents and students.
Doesn't it affect everyone at the school?

The irony is that this sounds like the persecution complex umbrage disadvantaged groups hold, i.e. the DEI groups this poster is ranting about.

In my 50s now but when I was a late teen I worked at Yes! bookstore in DC, a new age-y bookstore. I was part of operations upstairs and met a crunchy woman who graduated from Harvard. She admitted she couldn't do math and had to do remedial classes even back then.

Anonymous wrote:My relative teaches at a HYP school (math). They have remedial math as many kids miss pre calc concepts in a rush to other classes and then can't do higher level concepts which aren't spoon fed like in HS.

This is the key! The race to be the furthest ahead means cutting corners at the lower levels. This is why many private and some public high schools have allowed the math track down. Some of these kids are just memorizing the formulas and don’t have a deep understanding. Couple that with grade inflation and the weak foundation emerges in college.

My relative teaches at a HYP school (math). They have remedial math as many kids miss pre calc concepts in a rush to other classes and then can't do higher level concepts which aren't spoon fed like in HS.

How dare a school educate students?

In my day we paid a nerd to take our tests for us, as God intended.

Anonymous wrote:For any admit? What joke.

There are lots of Kennedy descendants these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action abs DEI admits just like what has been done to TJ in the name of DEI.

Post your source for this offensive nonsense. It’s garbage.

The fact that TJ started to offer remedial math classes couple years after they changed the admission system to a DEI admission system.

Disgusting how they ruined the best high school in the country to one having remedial students.

All in the name of DEI and with no regard for Asian parents or Asian students as long as they get to pander to the politically advantages group. Sickening.