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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Under the current policy and practices, my son gets As on all AP assignments and tests and earns an A for the semester. My son then averages 85% across all his work in Canvas/Synergy but managed to get an 89.5% one quarter so he gets an A as well, with multiple late assignments, Bs and Cs on tests, "test corrections," retakes, etc. Maybe it is teaching the right lesson (life's not fair) but it also teaching the wrong lesson.

Y'all need to troll better.
No one believes y'all.

DP. Then you shouldn’t have a problem with changing the system. Grades should stay the same under the new system.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Under the current policy and practices, my son gets As on all AP assignments and tests and earns an A for the semester. My son then averages 85% across all his work in Canvas/Synergy but managed to get an 89.5% one quarter so he gets an A as well, with multiple late assignments, Bs and Cs on tests, "test corrections," retakes, etc. Maybe it is teaching the right lesson (life's not fair) but it also teaching the wrong lesson.

Y'all need to troll better.
No one believes y'all.

+1

Grades used to mean something until the time when teachers had all their grading time talen away and they were coerced to fraud the grades to make admin look good and to downplay the constant violence and toxic learning environment.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this won’t stick since more kids will be failing and no one is going to want that.

Exactly. Colleges already have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps.
What would be more important would be this absurd no fail policy.
A degree from mcps is worthless when no one fails or repeats a grade.

Please stop this narrative. Colleges do not have an algorithm for how they treat grades from MCPS. That would be stupid. The may have an algorithm for how they treat grades from all applicant regardless of school. And usually it’s based on what said college prefers as core courses

We were told by college recruiters that they very much do have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps. Specifically we were told that the W school we attended was thought of more highly than others in the district and would effect the aid we were offered.

Name the school and college recruiter.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Under the current policy and practices, my son gets As on all AP assignments and tests and earns an A for the semester. My son then averages 85% across all his work in Canvas/Synergy but managed to get an 89.5% one quarter so he gets an A as well, with multiple late assignments, Bs and Cs on tests, "test corrections," retakes, etc. Maybe it is teaching the right lesson (life's not fair) but it also teaching the wrong lesson.

Y'all need to troll better.
No one believes y'all.

Anonymous wrote:Glad they are doing this. I have had students earn an A for a B average (eg, 89.5 MP1 followed by a 79.5 MP2). When I was growing up in NYC, the public schools "kept the books open," meaning the quarterly grade was just a checkpoint progress report grade for the particular day that grade is issued. Later they switched to just averaging the two together and putting the numerical average on the transcript (ouch). I always thought it was a plot to get more of us to attend SUNY and CUNY schools. MCPS also surprised me with their total no -enforcement of state truancy laws or even the stated countrywide attendance policy.

No, you did not.

Exactly. Under the current policy and practices, my son gets As on all AP assignments and tests and earns an A for the semester. My son then averages 85% across all his work in Canvas/Synergy but managed to get an 89.5% one quarter so he gets an A as well, with multiple late assignments, Bs and Cs on tests, "test corrections," retakes, etc. Maybe it is teaching the right lesson (life's not fair) but it also teaching the wrong lesson.

Glad they are doing this. I have had students earn an A for a B average (eg, 89.5 MP1 followed by a 79.5 MP2). When I was growing up in NYC, the public schools "kept the books open," meaning the quarterly grade was just a checkpoint progress report grade for the particular day that grade is issued. Later they switched to just averaging the two together and putting the numerical average on the transcript (ouch). I always thought it was a plot to get more of us to attend SUNY and CUNY schools. MCPS also surprised me with their total no -enforcement of state truancy laws or even the stated countrywide attendance policy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this won’t stick since more kids will be failing and no one is going to want that.

Exactly. Colleges already have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps.
What would be more important would be this absurd no fail policy.
A degree from mcps is worthless when no one fails or repeats a grade.

Please stop this narrative. Colleges do not have an algorithm for how they treat grades from MCPS. That would be stupid. The may have an algorithm for how they treat grades from all applicant regardless of school. And usually it’s based on what said college prefers as core courses

We were told by college recruiters that they very much do have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps. Specifically we were told that the W school we attended was thought of more highly than others in the district and would effect the aid we were offered.

Cool story bro.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this won’t stick since more kids will be failing and no one is going to want that.

Exactly. Colleges already have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps.
What would be more important would be this absurd no fail policy.
A degree from mcps is worthless when no one fails or repeats a grade.

Please stop this narrative. Colleges do not have an algorithm for how they treat grades from MCPS. That would be stupid. The may have an algorithm for how they treat grades from all applicant regardless of school. And usually it’s based on what said college prefers as core courses

We were told by college recruiters that they very much do have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps. Specifically we were told that the W school we attended was thought of more highly than others in the district and would effect the aid we were offered.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just use the numeric course average to determine that?

Or just have the gradebook go for the entire semester.

Or just go to mastery grading for the semester not averages of point in time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this won’t stick since more kids will be failing and no one is going to want that.

Exactly. Colleges already have their own algorithm for how they treat grades from mcps.
What would be more important would be this absurd no fail policy.
A degree from mcps is worthless when no one fails or repeats a grade.

Please stop this narrative. Colleges do not have an algorithm for how they treat grades from MCPS. That would be stupid. The may have an algorithm for how they treat grades from all applicant regardless of school. And usually it’s based on what said college prefers as core courses

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Colleges have caught on to mcps’s grade inflation and that reputation is hurting our students’ future outcomes.
Yet, parents and students push and push and push for grades, abuse of the 50% rule, etc.
The current grading system deters motivation for quarter 2 and quarter 4.
(Guess what I do lol).

I doubt parents pushed for that bizarre policy to take the best grade of two marking periods that has deterred attendance for MP2 and 4. That seems like MCPS trying to get the graduation rates up…

Then you would be surprised at what we hear.

Why does MCPS constantly cave to the squeakiest, whiniest wheels?

No one is forcing them too. If they’re doing these stupid policies and saying that parents are making them cave, there are many other parents who are unhappy with the current grading policy that McPS is choosing to ignore. This is all about McPS wanting to inflate their learning outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:More optics without substance.
They should be looking at the academics and the barriers to academic success.

+1. Wouldn’t it be awesome if they devoted this time to be sure kids knew math?

I can still remember when they got rid of the midterm and final exams in math - coincidentally at the same time it showed that most were failing algebra on the exams but the grades didn’t reflect it.

Over the years, grading changes continued to make it easier to obtain higher grades and hide whether or not they learned adequate content. The policies also incentivized less effort and attendance in Q2 and Q4.

While not the magic answer to all problems, incrementally hopefully this will improve things or at least get things back on track.

Many teachers have weekly quizzes and regular tests but they never tell the kids when

Anonymous wrote:More optics without substance.
They should be looking at the academics and the barriers to academic success.

This. And to detract from other issues.