I don't enjoy denying anyone a job, but if you are insufferable, look down on others, have a sense of entitlement out of the gate, feel you should be earning over 200K with no experience other than an internship and some schooling, and you only will do "certain things", I have no use for you.

Graduating from HYPMS is like getting picked in the 1st round of the NFL draft. You will definitely get an opportunity over someone who is picked in the 5th round. If you look at the 2018 NFL draft, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, and Josh Rosen were picked ahead of Lamar Jackson. Brock Purdy was the last picked in the 2022 NFL draft. If you're looking at today, Purdy went to the Superbowl, Jackson won the MVP twice. In the meantime, Mayfield is average, Rosen is a burst, and the jury is still out on Darnold. Jackson and Purdy both have chips on their shoulders, so that's why they are successful. FWIW, my younger brother is going to graduate from Harvard with an MBA soon, and he is still jobless.

Anonymous wrote:Eh.
Some of the state school kids have horrible writing and analytical skills.
Sure they can code.
But buyer beware….

This.
Look at the written communication skills. Ask for writing samples (and run it through AI checker).

Anonymous wrote:You must not work at a tip top company. If you did, everyone would be from a top school.

eh. There are state u grads at FAANGs.

-signed a state u grad in a FAANG

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with stupid people like OP is they thet can't tell the difference between stupid people and smart people, so they'll never understand how they are a showing themselves to be the fool.

+1. Perhaps they would understand this had they attended a T15.

Oh please. Bush Jr went to Yale, and Trump went to Wharton. We all know family money and connections can buy your way in. You are also why people can't stand elitist snobs.

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Anonymous wrote:I love giving chances to those who don't have fancy degrees. Top kids at average state schools are often smarter and harder working than Ivy types. But there is a clear line between using that to motivate you and being totally insecure and having a chip on your shoulder.

DP. I agree with the quoted bit just above. I know good engineers from WVU and VT who show up with a huge chip on their shoulder and tremendous workplace insecurity AND others from the same schools who show up motivated to show they can do the work (but no chip on the shoulder). People in the second group are highly valuable. People in the first group are just disruptive at work.

Do they have a chip or do you inadvertently say obnoxious things to them about being from WV/SWVa? People say the stupidest sh?t to people from Appalachia, even educated people. At my Ivy half the people treated me like a Neanderthal come to life or a circus freak.

I can’t tell you the number of times people at work have made inbreeding jokes when they find out I went to WVU for my undergraduate.

The joke is on them as it is illegal to marry cousins in West Virginia and Kentucky, but perfectly legal in Maryland, the District of Columbia, Virginia, New York, California, Illinois, Colorado, Vermont, New Jersey. Connecticut...

You must not work at a tip top company. If you did, everyone would be from a top school.

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Anonymous wrote:I love giving chances to those who don't have fancy degrees. Top kids at average state schools are often smarter and harder working than Ivy types. But there is a clear line between using that to motivate you and being totally insecure and having a chip on your shoulder.

DP. I agree with the quoted bit just above. I know good engineers from WVU and VT who show up with a huge chip on their shoulder and tremendous workplace insecurity AND others from the same schools who show up motivated to show they can do the work (but no chip on the shoulder). People in the second group are highly valuable. People in the first group are just disruptive at work.

Do they have a chip or do you inadvertently say obnoxious things to them about being from WV/SWVa? People say the stupidest sh?t to people from Appalachia, even educated people. At my Ivy half the people treated me like a Neanderthal come to life or a circus freak.

I can’t tell you the number of times people at work have made inbreeding jokes when they find out I went to WVU for my undergraduate.

Yes. It's not just the T15s. It's pretty much everywhere except West VA.

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Anonymous wrote:I love giving chances to those who don't have fancy degrees. Top kids at average state schools are often smarter and harder working than Ivy types. But there is a clear line between using that to motivate you and being totally insecure and having a chip on your shoulder.

DP. I agree with the quoted bit just above. I know good engineers from WVU and VT who show up with a huge chip on their shoulder and tremendous workplace insecurity AND others from the same schools who show up motivated to show they can do the work (but no chip on the shoulder). People in the second group are highly valuable. People in the first group are just disruptive at work.

Do they have a chip or do you inadvertently say obnoxious things to them about being from WV/SWVa? People say the stupidest sh?t to people from Appalachia, even educated people. At my Ivy half the people treated me like a Neanderthal come to life or a circus freak.

That would have happened at UVA too. In fact, it did...and my roommate at VT who was valedictorian of her WVA HS. People always said--yeah but it was from West VA, not NoVA. And this was back when there used to be "A" valedictorian---not 200+ lol

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Anonymous wrote:They have overwhelmingly brought my company problems. Feels great to see the light and deny..

Yes, all T15 graduates are exactly alike and terrible and should be rejected en masse

LOL As if OP did any real research over a long time period to ascertain the worth of T15 grads. LOL!

Gotta love these dumb posts based on a few experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:They have overwhelmingly brought my company problems. Feels great to see the light and deny..

Many of them are likely DEI acceptances.

Most if we are talking about those lacking basic reading and math skills.

Totally just based on my own experience, but I’ve noticed that kids who graduate from the super top-tier schools—are usually insanely smart and loaded with theoretical knowledge. It’s impressive for sure. But the ones who didn’t go to those top, impressive schools tend to stand out in a different way. They’ve got grit, strong communication skills, and the willingness to learn and start from the bottom and work their way up. Honestly, some of the most impressive recent graduates at our company right now come from schools like GMU, Towson, Clemson, UMD, VT, and Radford. They bring this practical, grounded energy and I enjoy working with them. That said, I’d never skip over someone just because they came from a T15 school—that would be ridiculous. Everyone’s different, and what matters most is how they show up, not just where they went to school.

Anonymous wrote:The problem with stupid people like OP is they thet can't tell the difference between stupid people and smart people, so they'll never understand how they are a showing themselves to be the fool.

+1. Perhaps they would understand this had they attended a T15.

The problem with stupid people like OP is they thet can't tell the difference between stupid people and smart people, so they'll never understand how they are a showing themselves to be the fool.

LOL.

You want people to believe that you use your company's valuable time to interview and reject people you won't hire? And that nobody in HR or the executive suite has noticed you wasting the company's money by burning hours on a personal vendetta?

You are a clown