Anonymous wrote:I am opposed to making America a manufacturing success again.

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Anonymous wrote:self sufficency
quality control
better polution standards in US than overseas
Strengthening the US
Price

Is this question that stupid? Its like you're 18 and have never been in the real world. Producing our goods overseas isnt better than producing goods in the US.

I question the education of people here

We DON'T manufacture. No one wants those jobs. And I grew up in the rust belt where factory work was where all my uneducated (in an academic sense) ancestors worked. Those factories are no longer there and they all transitioned to other jobs.

Further, this is a GLOBAL economy. The idea that any nation can be as isolationist as Trump is being right now is ridiculous.

There is another uncomfortable reality that is going unmentioned, too. Most high schoolers today are quite frankly too stupid to work in a factory.

Do you really think the children of the typical DCUM parents here could be trusted to operate hydraulic presses stamping out car body panels or assembling aircraft for Boeing or Lockheed Martin or using injection molding machines to make a variety of common items? Most kids today are morons. That includes the kids of most of you reading this. The ONLY option your kids have is to go to college and get some white collar job where they won’t endanger themselves or anyone else. They can’t be trusted to build or create anything. They’ll cut their hand off or get themselves killed somehow, or they’ll screw up some other way. The only safe choice they have is go to college and then get an office job.

We’ve gone to the opposite extreme in this county in just 3 generations. Factory jobs were once seen as dead end low paying jobs for dummies. Now the current generation of youth are too stupid to be able to do factory work.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't we want to be a sustainable country? Why wouldn't we want to be able to provide for ourselves? Do you think the world experiences less pollution just because manufacturing is in another part of the world?

We are not the most innovative. So we can't get the best made items b/c we are forced to buy stuff from the US? Do you travel? Our stuff sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:There should be manufacturing, absolutely, but it should be for things critical to the country as evidenced by shortages due to supply chain issues related to COVID and to things where it simply makes economic sense to produce in country. Shoes are not something that requires a skilled workforce and doesn't pay a lot because consumers demand lower prices, and as such, no need to onshore those jobs, for example.

Like toilet paper? Heck TP is made in the good old USA and we couldn’t even get that one right! People were using copies of the post just like our great GPs used back in the day.

Leave the manufacturing to the pros.

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't we want to be a sustainable country? Why wouldn't we want to be able to provide for ourselves? Do you think the world experiences less pollution just because manufacturing is in another part of the world?

Anonymous wrote:Quality control is a hilarious response. There will be no more quality control in the US under Trump.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:self sufficency
quality control
better polution standards in US than overseas
Strengthening the US
Price

Is this question that stupid? Its like you're 18 and have never been in the real world. Producing our goods overseas isnt better than producing goods in the US.

I question the education of people here

We DON'T manufacture. No one wants those jobs. And I grew up in the rust belt where factory work was where all my uneducated (in an academic sense) ancestors worked. Those factories are no longer there and they all transitioned to other jobs.

Further, this is a GLOBAL economy. The idea that any nation can be as isolationist as Trump is being right now is ridiculous.

There is another uncomfortable reality that is going unmentioned, too. Most high schoolers today are quite frankly too stupid to work in a factory.

Do you really think the children of the typical DCUM parents here could be trusted to operate hydraulic presses stamping out car body panels or assembling aircraft for Boeing or Lockheed Martin or using injection molding machines to make a variety of common items? Most kids today are morons. That includes the kids of most of you reading this. The ONLY option your kids have is to go to college and get some white collar job where they won’t endanger themselves or anyone else. They can’t be trusted to build or create anything. They’ll cut their hand off or get themselves killed somehow, or they’ll screw up some other way. The only safe choice they have is go to college and then get an office job.

We’ve gone to the opposite extreme in this county in just 3 generations. Factory jobs were once seen as dead end low paying jobs for dummies. Now the current generation of youth are too stupid to be able to do factory work.

Yeah, first rule of plumbing. ''it flows down hill. You can see this paradigm in many industries. It's especially prevalent in tech where you have layers upon layers of managers, while the lowly coders are getting all of the work done and are likely the most intelligent of the bunch. Why do you think the Techies have to be on the indentured servant plan? Because the smart kids got up and walked off. But that is the way all the trust fund kids like it.

Though to be fair, I could have gone in into Chemical Engineering or Chemistry. Knowing what I know about industry and the way business works. I'm glad I steered clear of that stuff. You'd have to have a PhD just to read the chemical safety sheet. Let the trust fund kids play with their chemicals.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:self sufficency
quality control
better polution standards in US than overseas
Strengthening the US
Price

Is this question that stupid? Its like you're 18 and have never been in the real world. Producing our goods overseas isnt better than producing goods in the US.

I question the education of people here

We DON'T manufacture. No one wants those jobs. And I grew up in the rust belt where factory work was where all my uneducated (in an academic sense) ancestors worked. Those factories are no longer there and they all transitioned to other jobs.

Further, this is a GLOBAL economy. The idea that any nation can be as isolationist as Trump is being right now is ridiculous.

There is another uncomfortable reality that is going unmentioned, too. Most high schoolers today are quite frankly too stupid to work in a factory.

Do you really think the children of the typical DCUM parents here could be trusted to operate hydraulic presses stamping out car body panels or assembling aircraft for Boeing or Lockheed Martin or using injection molding machines to make a variety of common items? Most kids today are morons. That includes the kids of most of you reading this. The ONLY option your kids have is to go to college and get some white collar job where they won’t endanger themselves or anyone else. They can’t be trusted to build or create anything. They’ll cut their hand off or get themselves killed somehow, or they’ll screw up some other way. The only safe choice they have is go to college and then get an office job.

We’ve gone to the opposite extreme in this county in just 3 generations. Factory jobs were once seen as dead end low paying jobs for dummies. Now the current generation of youth are too stupid to be able to do factory work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:self sufficency
quality control
better polution standards in US than overseas
Strengthening the US
Price

Is this question that stupid? Its like you're 18 and have never been in the real world. Producing our goods overseas isnt better than producing goods in the US.

I question the education of people here

We DON'T manufacture. No one wants those jobs. And I grew up in the rust belt where factory work was where all my uneducated (in an academic sense) ancestors worked. Those factories are no longer there and they all transitioned to other jobs.

Further, this is a GLOBAL economy. The idea that any nation can be as isolationist as Trump is being right now is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be manufacturing, absolutely, but it should be for things critical to the country as evidenced by shortages due to supply chain issues related to COVID and to things where it simply makes economic sense to produce in country. Shoes are not something that requires a skilled workforce and doesn't pay a lot because consumers demand lower prices, and as such, no need to onshore those jobs, for example.

It isn't critical until it is. If a producer starts squeezing us because they have leverage or a war breaks out, of course you want to have some manufacturing stateside.

Do you ever see beyond the end of your nose? Did you see what Russia did to Europe with heating oil and gas sales and what we went thru with the Arab oil embargo of the 70's?

Do you think the lithium and other materials and components for batteries for your EV comes from Detroit or Los Angeles? Well no, it doesn't.

Where the hell do you think the plastic dashboard for your car comes from? Petroleum.

Why does everything have to be "critical" with shortages before you act? Do you take in to consideration the ramp up time to produce once it becomes critical?

People on DCUM are so short-sighted, stupid and long-term self destructive.

The question isn't whether we should, it's the types of items we should manufacture here. We don't have all of the critical minerals we need here. There are some, but people don't want to live near a lithium mine. We don't want to live in polluted cities.

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't we want to be a sustainable country? Why wouldn't we want to be able to provide for ourselves? Do you think the world experiences less pollution just because manufacturing is in another part of the world?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be manufacturing, absolutely, but it should be for things critical to the country as evidenced by shortages due to supply chain issues related to COVID and to things where it simply makes economic sense to produce in country. Shoes are not something that requires a skilled workforce and doesn't pay a lot because consumers demand lower prices, and as such, no need to onshore those jobs, for example.

It isn't critical until it is. If a producer starts squeezing us because they have leverage or a war breaks out, of course you want to have some manufacturing stateside.

Do you ever see beyond the end of your nose? Did you see what Russia did to Europe with heating oil and gas sales and what we went thru with the Arab oil embargo of the 70's?

Do you think the lithium and other materials and components for batteries for your EV comes from Detroit or Los Angeles? Well no, it doesn't.

Where the hell do you think the plastic dashboard for your car comes from? Petroleum.

Why does everything have to be "critical" with shortages before you act? Do you take in to consideration the ramp up time to produce once it becomes critical?

People on DCUM are so short-sighted, stupid and long-term self destructive.