Anonymous wrote:Is UVA worth the high cost of attendance for out of staters? Other state schools are so much more reasonable - I understand the prestige of UVA but is it worth that much more? DS wants to go south to an academically rigorous school but one that has good sports and a lot of school spirit.

It’s not and UVa’s Board has been having meetings on OOS tuition having gotten out of hand when compared to other schools.

How about Florida (UF)?

Anonymous wrote:No public school is worth paying out-of-state tuition.

it depends which state you are from...

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Anonymous wrote:What about those of us from DC, which is a large number of DCUM posters?

We don't have a state school so we face the "which state schools are worth paying OOS for" dilemma each year.

? but then every college is oos for you, no? Or do you mean pay oos UVA vs private?

yes, every school is OOS and the name-brand ones are all very hard to get into even for high stats because you're out-of-state at all of them.
There is no safety top30 school (public or private) for a high stats kid.

We are considering OOS UVA, and the tuition, although high for a state school, compares favorably to the private university options we have. Pros and cons to every school, and looking for DC's best fit.

Anonymous wrote:What about those of us from DC, which is a large number of DCUM posters?

We don't have a state school so we face the "which state schools are worth paying OOS for" dilemma each year.

? but then every college is oos for you, no? Or do you mean pay oos UVA vs private?

Also, when you don't have state schools you remove your first line of good safeties/matches for top students.

So for top DC students you're looking at
--OOS at places like UVA, Michigan, UNC
--merit aid at UGA, Clemson
--privates for mostly around $90K unless you go outside the top50

My DC kid applied to all 3 options and didn't get into any top25 privates. It wasn't for lack of trying or for not having the grades. When every top kid in the District is doing the same and there are a lot of FGLI kids from DC in the mix it gets crazy competitive at top private schools.

What about those of us from DC, which is a large number of DCUM posters?

We don't have a state school so we face the "which state schools are worth paying OOS for" dilemma each year.

For southern and academically rigorous the only publics are UNC, UVA, William and Mary and Georgia Tech for engineering, it is not on par with UVA for other subjects. UNC is slightly weaker academically to UVA. Privates are Vanderbilt Duke Rice Emory Wake. They have varying degrees of sports culture, and Duke and Rice do not feel southern at all as the majority of students are not from the south. Vanderbilt is edging that way too, all three very popular with northeast and CA kids, as well as 10-15 % international.

Anonymous wrote:Is UVA worth the high cost of attendance for out of staters? Other state schools are so much more reasonable - I understand the prestige of UVA but is it worth that much more? DS wants to go south to an academically rigorous school but one that has good sports and a lot of school spirit.

Yes UVA OOS is worth it if they do not live in NC, MI or CA and are unable to attend one of those excellent flagships for in state costs, and/or did not get into a private T20/top LAC that costs the same as UVA OOS but would have more resources per student, smaller classes & other perks at well endowed schools

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Anonymous wrote:No public school is worth paying out-of-state tuition.

I think W&M may be unique in this regard, for the right kid.

Agreed. I would gladly pay OOS for W&M over any private university and many publics. Instate publics are not comparable for many students.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone saying no is a jealous viper in desperate need of attention.

Nope. I am a double Hoo from in-state. UVa is a fine school, but I would not pay OOS fees for any public university.

No, you aren't. Thanks for lying.

Anonymous wrote:No public school is worth paying out-of-state tuition.

UCB/LA, Michigan, maybe UNC, UMD (for STEM).

It’s way more than schools like South Carolina, Georgia, Clemson, etc if going south is the priority. I would think between those schools UVA would be “worth it” but maybe not compared to private universities where you wouldn’t be paying that much more.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is worth if you’re going pre professional route. Banking, law consulting. Due to top recruitment

But they don’t have a direct admit to the business school! 50% admit rate is a risk if you want business. Go with a direct admit school. Hopefully, UVA will change their admissions and make business a direct admit from high school like nursing.

Plus UVA went to applying at end of 1st year now (instead of second year). The requirements to apply are way less, more will apply and I won’t be surprised if the admit rate drops to 35%. First results from this change will be known this summer, so absolutely expect that rate to drop.