Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 10:43     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. Coach is being short sighted and dazzled by the private plane. The rest of the club will always suspect the coach of favoritism and being beholden to the private plane swimmer. They might be able to get away with it once, but when the coach accepts other favors and perks, the rest of the team will always resent the relationship.


What kind of favoritism are you envisioning? Swimming is entirely time based.


Correct, but coaching matters and favoritism can be shown by coaching/paying attention too some kids more than others during practice.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 10:37     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:No. Coach is being short sighted and dazzled by the private plane. The rest of the club will always suspect the coach of favoritism and being beholden to the private plane swimmer. They might be able to get away with it once, but when the coach accepts other favors and perks, the rest of the team will always resent the relationship.


What kind of favoritism are you envisioning? Swimming is entirely time based.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 10:33     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.


This is a piece of safe sport I think is narrow and short sighted. There are situations, especially when a club coach also has swimmers/families at summer swim where they are like family. I think there is a difference between a coach who is a creep and coach who grew up two doors down and is a close family friend.


Got it, like Larry Nassar and his close relationship with families
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 10:17     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:FWIW, safe sport guidelines…

Coaches should avoid having athletes as their favorites. They should also avoid creating a
situation that could be perceived as them having favorites.

Gift-giving, providing special favors or showing favoritism to individual athletes is strongly
discouraged.


This is a piece of safe sport I think is narrow and short sighted. There are situations, especially when a club coach also has swimmers/families at summer swim where they are like family. I think there is a difference between a coach who is a creep and coach who grew up two doors down and is a close family friend.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 10:15     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Mind your business OP.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 09:41     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:None of these fools have a private plane. They are not that well off.



They probably buy hours or have a split, that’s not uncommon.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 09:19     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
None of these fools have a private plane. They are not that well off.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2025 07:18     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
What county are we looking under?
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 23:25     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
You can find a list of all privately owned planes by residents of any state and county here:
https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Search/StateCountyResult
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 23:13     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s the sham RFP and overly close relationship between coach and team rep/pool board that makes it seem icky.


The evolution of this thread went from maybe inappropriate to safe sport violation to not inappropriate to icky. I was worried for a minute we would miss a reference to Machine losing a competitive bid, but you found a way to connect it to a plane ride. So much hostility.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:13     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
I think it’s the sham RFP and overly close relationship between coach and team rep/pool board that makes it seem icky.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:05     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Totally appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 22:04     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Anonymous wrote:No. Inappropriate.


Yes. Perfectly appropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:52     Subject: Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
No. Inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 21:36     Subject: Re:Should a coach travel on a family’s private plane?
Huh? When Kobe Bryant died in the copter crash, there were several coaches and other players parents etc who were hitching a ride with him, no?

The coach can travel on a family's private plane. Why not?