Anonymous wrote:I walked the 3D tour and I see now how terrible this floor plan is. It’s not even completely about size. I’ve seen very charming homes that were tiny but flowed well. This house has a horrible layout and zero charm. I wonder if it was originally 3 bedrooms upstairs and remodeled to become 2 larger bedrooms. The main floor is not welcoming and there’s no real dining space.

We have a house in Arlington with the same original layout. This layout is awful. They removed a dining room and cut into living to make a kitchen that is flat and long. And they absorbed a bedroom upstairs to turn it into 2beds upstairs.

Why are there no windows on the back wall. When you look at the exterior it looks like it’s missing 3-4 windows.

I'm just going to say that I think it's poorly presented in the listing. The staging and photos make it look sad and depressing. I actually prefer small, older homes, but this one gives bad vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is getting out of hand in Arlington. People are avoiding.

Yeah, the weekend incident at Pentagon City Mall was wild. It's an issue with pretty much any close-in suburb. Part of the reason many people prefer Fairfax Co.

Where Tyson’s Mall is located?

Has Tyson's mall had fights involving hundreds of kids that force the mall to shut down?

Average size lot in 22203 right next to Carlin Springs- 800k max. Maybe 700-750.

Anonymous wrote:There must be some kind of easement problem or something impeding easy redevelopment. Under a million for a 6,000 sq ft lot in Arlington is cheap even in less desired areas of north Arlington. In my neighborhood here the lot alone would be worth $1.3.

Which neighborhood is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is getting out of hand in Arlington. People are avoiding.

Yeah, the weekend incident at Pentagon City Mall was wild. It's an issue with pretty much any close-in suburb. Part of the reason many people prefer Fairfax Co.

Where Tyson’s Mall is located?

There must be some kind of easement problem or something impeding easy redevelopment. Under a million for a 6,000 sq ft lot in Arlington is cheap even in less desired areas of north Arlington. In my neighborhood here the lot alone would be worth $1.3.

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is getting out of hand in Arlington. People are avoiding.

Yeah, the weekend incident at Pentagon City Mall was wild. It's an issue with pretty much any close-in suburb. Part of the reason many people prefer Fairfax Co.

Yeah, nothing screams safety like Hybla Valley or Culmore.

Culmore is more poor than dangerous. But it's definitely an eyesore.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the street view. Strikes me as a teardown, so I wonder if there's an issue with the easements that is making it unattractive to a developer, or if they need to wait for the seller to come down on price.

This is one of those properties that is awkwardly straddling the line—it’s currently a bit too overpriced to be a teardown, while also being unappealing with too much work ($$) to bring it up to standard to appeal to real live-in buyers.

I agree, but I think the 2 real bedrooms is the real issue. Most people move to Arlington for the schools which means they have kids...a 3 bedroom SFH is sort of the bare minimum. A true basement bedroom might be passable, but this is just an open basement rec room being passed as a bedroom.

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If you have two kids do you put them both upstairs and just hope you can fit a queen bed in that tiny bedroom on the first floor? Or do you have one upstairs and one downstairs?

Are you considering the sun room the 3rd bedroom? From the listing I think they are considering the basement rec room a “possible guest suite.” Seems a stretch.

I honestly wasn’t even sure what the third bedroom was. I just guessed it was the sun room. The basement as the third bedroom is even worse!

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is getting out of hand in Arlington. People are avoiding.

Yeah, the weekend incident at Pentagon City Mall was wild. It's an issue with pretty much any close-in suburb. Part of the reason many people prefer Fairfax Co.

Yeah, nothing screams safety like Hybla Valley or Culmore.

Anonymous wrote:Answer is always, it is overpriced.

As always, the least helpful response on any of these threads. Just don't respond. You're not being clever here.

Anonymous wrote:Crime is getting out of hand in Arlington. People are avoiding.

Yeah, the weekend incident at Pentagon City Mall was wild. It's an issue with pretty much any close-in suburb. Part of the reason many people prefer Fairfax Co.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a desirable part of north Arlington which is why developers aren’t biting. A 6500 sq ft lot would sell at this price in almost any other area.

The house below is nearby to the one we are discussing and it sold to a developer for $925K in December for the lot. I think there's another reason developers are staying away (easement issue perhaps like a PP mentioned?)

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/501-N-Jefferson-St-22205/home/11242628

That lot is better. Bigger (7400 sq ft), wooded on one side and in the back, further from Carlin Springs. Those things greatly affect pricing.

I know that neighborhood well. Houses are being sold for $1.5m down the street. The Jefferson house looks close but is on the other side of the running trail that is a roadblock.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the yard is a real issue. These pictures were taken a few weeks ago before things started to green up. Our yard looked bedraggled then too, but it's filled in and greened up a ton since then. I think that's just the end of winter look. And if you hate to the putting green, I bet you could ask for an allowance to have it removed. Any landscaper could do that. The fence isn't great, but it would work for a dog until you save up to replace it with wood. Not a huge deal.

If everything else inside was great people might overlook the yard. But when every other aspect of the house is lacking, it’s a huge turnoff for potential buyers to look at the yard and say that’s $15k of fencing replacement plus navigating that with three different neighbors, $5k to rip up and return the stained putting green to grass, $5k for some decent minimal plants, $10-15k to rip up that terribly done ugly concrete patio and put in something that looks decent…

They add that up and realize it’s easier to just buy a different house. Not to mention the exterior is a big flashing sign that says “this home was not cared for or well-maintained”

That said, the answer isn’t for the sellers to spruce up the yard…it’s to drop the asking price by $100k.