Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 07:56     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:When you've lost Joe Rogan...

Joe Rogan: 'Horrific' innocent people could be swept up in deportations to El Salvador
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5224117-trump-deportation-gang-members/


Not a Joe Rogan fan but glad he is calling attention to this issue. This is what he said:

Said Rogan: “The thing is, like, you got to get scared that people who are not criminals are getting, like, lassoed up and deported and sent to, like, El Salvador prisons.”

He added: “It’s horrific. It’s horrific.”
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 07:45     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Re: This admin error story: The fact that this man has a name , we know the name and an article was written about him is HUGE. Where my family is from there would be no notice

we would not know his name
there would be no message board
they may be a small protest in his small town

This guy may get out. I am happy he has a lobby here in this little group . Hope you do something about it like write a letter with your name on it

Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 07:40     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/an-administrative-error-sends-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/

I can't read the whole piece in the Atlantic but caught it in other networks.

WTF???!!!! Another oops? Sorry we can't fix it because he's in their custody? What the hell does that even mean??!!!



State never ceases to disappoint. Either MAR is so powerless that he cannot effectuate this individual’s return, or the administration expects us to believe he is. Wow. Anyone frontrunning these kinds of reprehensible acts should be ashamed.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 07:35     Subject: America planning for next Internment
At least Kilmar Abrego Garcia is in his own county. Once he gets out he will not be in danger

if you think being detained with little or no due process is something that doesn’t happen in the US everyday to US Citizens for small offenses, then well… you are blissfully unaware!
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 07:32     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Weird. But I also basically painted myself as a church singer when I got divorced before a judge. I sing in the shower.

I mean … I’ll wait to see what they have on him. You never know


Except we won't see, since there's no due process. He could just disappear forever and our government has basically said "Eh - just take our word for it."


How do you know that? How do you know they had “no due process.” Who is they. Lots of these folks had orders already in place. I studied Immigration law. (I have loads of immigrants in my family, fwiw). It’s a very grey area -esp with temporary visas.

Did you know - We got rid of thousands of ALJ judges at the SEC. The judicial system and ALJs are something everyone should be watching if we like due process. There have been many fundamental changes in a short period of time

Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 04:55     Subject: America planning for next Internment
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/an-administrative-error-sends-a-man-to-a-salvadoran-prison/682254/

I can't read the whole piece in the Atlantic but caught it in other networks.

WTF???!!!! Another oops? Sorry we can't fix it because he's in their custody? What the hell does that even mean??!!!

Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 04:11     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:Expecting the attention? Bukele is the driving force behind it. His background is in marketing/advertising. His government produced the videos, not just the ones we have seen, the many before!

What is in for them? I mean, El Salvador has gone from one of the highest (the highest?) murder rate in Latin America to arguing that it is "the safest." They have rounded up gang members and jailed them and drastically reduced crime.

The benefits are obvious. But at what cost?
*human rights violations
*lack of due process
*random arrests to meet quotas

It is horrifying. The ends do not justify the means.


I would rather see the people of El Salvador murdered than see a conservative politician like Bukele allowed to talk about God and law and order on TV. Bukele’s cruel “success” has emboldened Trump to want to address OUR El Salvadoran MS-13 gang problem here in Virginia and Maryland, and it’s heartbreaking.
Anonymous
Post 04/01/2025 04:00     Subject: Re:America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are not losing sleep over Venezuelan gang members being deported. The administration needs to get its act together and make sure they aren't deporting US ciitizens but overall this is policy popular with most Americans. Were these people in our country illegally or not? Do you want to win the next election or not?


You are correct that most Americans don’t care about Venezuela gang members being deported.

But the thing that should concern all of us is that most did not receive due process, and some appear to have been sent their mistakenly. Like the gay make up artist. Or the young man with the autism awareness tattoo. Or the women in the group that were sent to El Salvador and promptly returned by the El Salvadoran government because it does not accept female prisoners.


The lack of due process is a HUGE problem. It fundamentally shakes any trust and confidence in federal law enforcement.

That, and the abysmal lack of transparency and the fact that they are rounding up people who are here LEGALLY - that should be of concern to EVERY American. That is how bad things have happened throughout history - whether Nazi concentration camps, Stalin's purges, the Great Leap Forward in China, Pol Pot and so on.

Nowhere in history has anything good ever come of this type of behavior.


Yes. I completely agree. This is a disaster.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2025 23:59     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:How do we define equality here?
Some people think everyone should have the same income. Do you agree?


Who thinks that? Everyone should have a minimum income maybe
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2025 18:53     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:When you've lost Joe Rogan...

Joe Rogan: 'Horrific' innocent people could be swept up in deportations to El Salvador
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5224117-trump-deportation-gang-members/


wow he spoke up for the gay hairdresser? How woke of him.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2025 17:26     Subject: America planning for next Internment
When you've lost Joe Rogan...

Joe Rogan: 'Horrific' innocent people could be swept up in deportations to El Salvador
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5224117-trump-deportation-gang-members/
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2025 09:02     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:Weird. But I also basically painted myself as a church singer when I got divorced before a judge. I sing in the shower.

I mean … I’ll wait to see what they have on him. You never know



You just put your finger on the key issue.

You are assuming that, like you, these people will get their day in court. Please take a moment to reflect on the fact that the US guarantees due process and has stripped these men of their day in court. Without apology. You will "wait" forever because there are no plans to tell you.

If 99% of those deported are gang bangers, may thos 99% spend the rest of their lives in jail after they are convicted.

Anonymous
Post 03/30/2025 08:33     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:Weird. But I also basically painted myself as a church singer when I got divorced before a judge. I sing in the shower.

I mean … I’ll wait to see what they have on him. You never know


Except we won't see, since there's no due process. He could just disappear forever and our government has basically said "Eh - just take our word for it."
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2025 07:33     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Another victim of ICE incompetence.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHzLuhiSneI/?igsh=M3N1eHVqZzFtbGF1
Anonymous
Post 03/29/2025 14:16     Subject: America planning for next Internment
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look at these article photos, and pictures of the tents built at Gitmo, historical images of Auschwitz, Japenese internments camps, slave ships. Then tell me that this Administration is not planning for the same.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4nrdnp018o

For the record, I completely get how/why El Salvador built Cecot. But when they did that were they expecting all this press and al these visits? Are they now trying to be the jail country? And if so what’s in it for them?


You don't get how advertising that crime doesn't pay could make a country appealing?

And what's in it for them sees to be a suddenly functional country. Despite all the complaints from the usual suspects the country is actually nice to live in for the first time in generations.


I'd like to know who you mean when you say "the usuals suspects" so dismissively. Are you talking about the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights at the UN? Because a lot of us respect the UN.

The United States was founded on principles of liberty, justice, and equality. It is un-American to gloss over human rights abuses.


“It is un American to gloss over human rights abuses.” Why then does the United States gloss over human rights abuses since its founding on the backs of slaves and indentured servants to it current abuses in the States and globally.