Anonymous wrote:Is this the Franklin Farm in McLean?

No. It's in the southern part of Herndon basically between Fair Oaks and Reston. Right off the Fairfax County Parkway. The land the church is on is an absurd location for a 4-story apartment building. You can't build it without the main ingress/egress point going through a daycare parking lot. What parent wants to worry about someone speeding through the lot to make the light at the very congested Franklin Farm Rd/Fairfax County Parkway intersection when they are dropping off and picking up their young kids? Speaking of this intersection, it is already a nightmare thanks to the nearby Dulles Discovery Center (large gov't buildings) . Franklin Farm Rd is used a a cut-through by many of those workers. It's a mess from 4:30-6:30 pm now.

The church needs money. It is always empty. People in Franklin Farm drive out of their way to go to a different Methodist church when there is one right in their neighborhood. That ought to tell you something. This is a desperate attempt by the church to stay solvent, with a slick former developer who has bragged about his connections to county leaders taking advantage of the situation.

When met by lots of community pushback, the church and developer were quick to say "oh it's just an idea". They are have not proven themselves to be trustworthy. They think they have this in the bag due to relationships with the county. People are not going to stop fighting this.

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Anonymous wrote:Dense housing is for dense people.

Those people can live in Arlington or DC if they want density. People that live here don’t want that.

This is the part that frustrates me the most. Many of us move out to the suburbs to get away from high density. We don’t want every single neighborhood to feel like Arlington and DC. So it’s beyond frustrating when the entire dynamic of a neighborhood is threatened because YIMBYs can’t stand the thought that not everyone wants to live next to apartments or mixed use buildings.

Is this the Franklin Farm in McLean?

Where is Franklin Farm?

Anonymous wrote:Dense housing is for dense people.

Those people can live in Arlington or DC if they want density. People that live here don’t want that.

Dense housing is for dense people.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.

Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.

Is it my job to make rent cheaper in my neighborhood?

"F you, I got mine!"

How neighborly of you. No wonder Trump won.

"I don't have what you have, so I want to take it from you"

That's what I see with the YIMBY types.

This is why it’s essential to buy in a neighborhood with covenants to protect from the YIMBYs destroying your community.

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Anonymous wrote:It's really easy to say you support affordable housing in the abstract. It's quite another thing to support it quite literally going in your backyard. I bet very few YIMBYs actually put their money where their mouth is. There is a reason your policies are deeply unpopular, and you know it.

Fairfax County will continue to circle the drain if residents figure out that developers can come in and put high density housing into any old single family neighborhood without any regard for the affected community.

I hope people living near struggling churches are paying attention. If passed, Senate Bill 1178 says that churches wouldn't even need to apply for rezoning to build high density housing on their property.

Um, well, YIMBYs support more housing, which will decrease demand in certain areas, which will curtail rent growth.

How do your anti-housing policies make rent cheaper, exactly?

Oh, that's right. They don't.

Is it my job to make rent cheaper in my neighborhood?

"F you, I got mine!"

How neighborly of you. No wonder Trump won.

"I don't have what you have, so I want to take it from you"

That's what I see with the YIMBY types.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!

Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?

How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.

Well, I guess that we should just sit back and enjoy trumps work. He was elected.

*shrug*

Trump is on your NIMBY side, numbskull.

Also, you conveniently didn’t address your stupid contention that choices are only made at the ballot box. Are we or are we not allowed to course correct after elections are decided? According to you we should just start lubing up for Trump because he was elected.

Is this what you are saying?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!

Exactly, it’s ridiculous that I can’t open an unregulated zip line attraction in my yard.

Yes, I should be able to build a 100 foot tall single stair building with no parking, that blocks sunlight for my neighbors homes. I should also be allowed to use all of these units as short-term rentals and have a ground floor 24 hour bar because of my “property rights”!!

It is my right to create a building that is unsafe where people might die in a fire and open a 24 hour bar that disrupts my neighbors sleep all night. If I am not allowed to do this you are a NIMBY and a terrible person.

Didn’t you hear? There is SO MUCH SUPPORT for this. SO MUCH. My sister cousin’s barber’s neighbor heard it from a guy on the bus. EVERYONE wants a fourplex with no parking and five dogs next door. It’s the new thing! It’s Opposite Day and having an apartment building next to you is the NEW THING!

Let’s ride the bus to get groceries and then ride it back and walk home to celebrate with all 20 of our neighbors!

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!

Oh how dare we RE agents lie to buyers about the character of the neighborhood and zoning to increase demand and line our pockets?

Oh how dare we developers lie to communities when we apply for permits, rarely, if ever, bringing to life the rosy vision we present when asking for exemptions and almost always creating more difficult conditions during construction than promised?

Oh how dare we both work behind the scenes with county and state authorities to change the rules to our financial favor, with limited public view and input, never allowing for mitigation of the negative impacts borne by residents to be attached as a condition?

Oh how dare we elected and appointed representatives of those residents court all of this to gain campaign contributions and indirect emolument through family/friends, investments and business associates?

And, more to the point, how dare residents, whose lives would be considerably disrupted from the effects of the above either in staying or leaving, object when there are alternate and less disruptive means available to society to achieve the noble ends bandied about as justification for it all?

How dare some private company (homebuilders) make a profit? You do understand that some "evil developer" built your house and *GASP* made money doing so?

You NIMBYs are ridiculous.


There already is public input, you NIMBY. It's called elections. What you want is special treatment. Well get over it, you get none.

Well, I guess that we should just sit back and enjoy trumps work. He was elected.

*shrug*

Trump is on your NIMBY side, numbskull.

I’m going to guess that you are the author of a couple of these posts, so we can address them all at once. There are only like 5 of you, so I’m sure you can pass the message on if I am incorrect.

You are very falsely equating people thinking critically about zoning issues with being NIMBY, though NIMBY is certainly not the insult that you seem to think it is.

You are also very falsely equating people questioning your methods and motives with being Trump supporters.

This is child level logic that you are trying to apply here, and I am embarrassed for you. I’m sorry.

You are really, REALLY, being insane in thinking that we are in the minority.

I know, I know, there is always an excuse why your magical and mythical support can’t ever be demonstrated except for through GGW hack push polls. I can’t even list all of the excuses the pathetic YIMBYs invent. It’s the same reason that they will never, ever, commit to putting the initiatives on a ballot, it’s it’s because your support is pretty
limited to a bunch of dorky white sim city obsessed bike riding nerds. That’s what you have, and no one cares, and that’s why you lose.

Plus, the initiatives are just incorrect. We already know.

So cry cry on the bus, ok?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!

Exactly, it’s ridiculous that I can’t open an unregulated zip line attraction in my yard.

Yes, I should be able to build a 100 foot tall single stair building with no parking, that blocks sunlight for my neighbors homes. I should also be allowed to use all of these units as short-term rentals and have a ground floor 24 hour bar because of my “property rights”!!

It is my right to create a building that is unsafe where people might die in a fire and open a 24 hour bar that disrupts my neighbors sleep all night. If I am not allowed to do this you are a NIMBY and a terrible person.

I'm so sick of this behavior by zoning and the zoning administration. We need new folks in there who actually care about the county, environment, and residents' wellbeing.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no how dare we let landowners use the land they bought and paid for the way they want!

My god, what if they do something crazy like build tall buildings full of housing in an area that has a massive housing shortage?!

Exactly, it’s ridiculous that I can’t open an unregulated zip line attraction in my yard.

Yes, I should be able to build a 100 foot tall single stair building with no parking, that blocks sunlight for my neighbors homes. I should also be allowed to use all of these units as short-term rentals and have a ground floor 24 hour bar because of my “property rights”!!

The Franklin Farm HOA needs to hire an attorney, to fight back against this plan.