Anonymous wrote:
Citation needed - or, gonna have to call bullshit on it. I definitely see recent white males on the lists.
https://centerforfiction.org/book-recs/first-novel-prize-winners/
https://www.nypl.org/about/awards/young-lions-fiction-award/winners-finalists
https://creativewriting.stanford.edu/stegner-fellowship/meet-stegner-fellows/former-stegner-fellows
But that said, isn't the white male MAGA line "writing poetry and fiction is gay" anyhow? Doesn't MAGA shun intellectual exercises?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Queer people exist. Anti-American group think-you mean learning history? Including the bad parts? Bc if you don’t, you are bound to repeat it. Oh wait…
Even if you thought that things had gone too far left—this is your solution?
You reveled in repulsing the majority with your fringe ideologies. Now, you can enjoy the backlash. Life comes at you fast.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Queer people exist. Anti-American group think-you mean learning history? Including the bad parts? Bc if you don’t, you are bound to repeat it. Oh wait…
Even if you thought that things had gone too far left—this is your solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Queer people exist. Anti-American group think-you mean learning history? Including the bad parts? Bc if you don’t, you are bound to repeat it. Oh wait…
Even if you thought that things had gone too far left—this is your solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
There is nothing more anti-American than fascism, you damned fascist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Queer people exist. Anti-American group think-you mean learning history? Including the bad parts? Bc if you don’t, you are bound to repeat it. Oh wait…
Even if you thought that things had gone too far left—this is your solution?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, it is not just writing, although it can definitely be seen there. In music, there are no new white male conductors in the US or Europe, and spots for new white male musicians in orchestras and symphonies are non-existent.
I don't think this administration will, is capable of, fixing this. But at least they noticed it's a problem.
A lot of orchestras have switched to blind auditions, so I’m not sure what point you are tying to prove exactly. That without affirmative action, white men aren’t getting the spots they used to get and presumptions of superiority they used to get simply by virtue of being white? Not quite the “problem” you are making it out to be.
Principals are selected by committee, not blind audition.
Locking white men out of the arts was fine on January 19th, supported by everyone. Now it is not.
It's hard enough to be an artist. We should support all them, not just POC LGBTQIA+, and women artists.
L
Kind of weird to assume that white guys are being disadvantaged because they are no longer the de facto winner in every competition. People who aren’t straight white males can also be capable leaders and have the sort of star power that excites donors and sells tickets. Everyone there has the chops.
Just because white guys used to systematically exclude everyone who wasn’t a white guy from consideration doesn’t mean people are getting even. But I could understand how equality might feel like oppression when you’re used to privilege.
It had literally switched from keeping out POC to keeping out white. And while some have been quietly unhappy about it, no one had felt able to say anything.
Now that silence has been broken.
Except that is not true. Honestly, it’s time we stop pussyfooting around white men. They owe an explanation why they are not being chosen when forced to compete against others.
Sorry, Bob. The women say you talk to close to them and you make them uncomfortable when you look at their chests instead of their faces. We couldn’t choose you without risking a lawsuit.
Sorry, Joe. The donors don’t like the way you talk over them and dismiss their concerns.
Sorry George, your credentials and recommendations were the weakest out of the bunch.
Sorry Jayden- we all know you’re not carrying your weight. We’re not ready to fire you yet but you’re on the top of the list the next time we need to cut.
Merciless honesty so there can be no doubt they competed and lost on their merits.
We're talking about young adults, men in their 20s, at the beginning of their careers (or not, if they cannot have a career in the arts). You're blaming them for something that happened to you in 1987. Grow up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
*Shrug* Better than promoting queer theory and anti-American groupthink.
Anonymous wrote:Trump appoints acting director to transform museums and libraries into indoctrination centers.
Trump admin declared that Libraries and museums have no purpose except to brainwash the populace to serve the state. This is real Nazifascist stuff.
The new acting director says
“We will revitalize IMLS and restore focus on patriotism, ensuring we preserve our country’s core values, promote American exceptionalism and cultivate love of country in future generations.”
https://apnews.com/article/institute-doge-musk-museum-library-services-executive-order-trump-30ebde013ce3e9f97e2f4af72c869c0b
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, it is not just writing, although it can definitely be seen there. In music, there are no new white male conductors in the US or Europe, and spots for new white male musicians in orchestras and symphonies are non-existent.
I don't think this administration will, is capable of, fixing this. But at least they noticed it's a problem.
A lot of orchestras have switched to blind auditions, so I’m not sure what point you are tying to prove exactly. That without affirmative action, white men aren’t getting the spots they used to get and presumptions of superiority they used to get simply by virtue of being white? Not quite the “problem” you are making it out to be.
Principals are selected by committee, not blind audition.
Locking white men out of the arts was fine on January 19th, supported by everyone. Now it is not.
It's hard enough to be an artist. We should support all them, not just POC LGBTQIA+, and women artists.
L
Kind of weird to assume that white guys are being disadvantaged because they are no longer the de facto winner in every competition. People who aren’t straight white males can also be capable leaders and have the sort of star power that excites donors and sells tickets. Everyone there has the chops.
Just because white guys used to systematically exclude everyone who wasn’t a white guy from consideration doesn’t mean people are getting even. But I could understand how equality might feel like oppression when you’re used to privilege.
It had literally switched from keeping out POC to keeping out white. And while some have been quietly unhappy about it, no one had felt able to say anything.
Now that silence has been broken.
Except that is not true. Honestly, it’s time we stop pussyfooting around white men. They owe an explanation why they are not being chosen when forced to compete against others.
Sorry, Bob. The women say you talk to close to them and you make them uncomfortable when you look at their chests instead of their faces. We couldn’t choose you without risking a lawsuit.
Sorry, Joe. The donors don’t like the way you talk over them and dismiss their concerns.
Sorry George, your credentials and recommendations were the weakest out of the bunch.
Sorry Jayden- we all know you’re not carrying your weight. We’re not ready to fire you yet but you’re on the top of the list the next time we need to cut.
Merciless honesty so there can be no doubt they competed and lost on their merits.
We're talking about young adults, men in their 20s, at the beginning of their careers (or not, if they cannot have a career in the arts). You're blaming them for something that happened to you in 1987. Grow up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, it is not just writing, although it can definitely be seen there. In music, there are no new white male conductors in the US or Europe, and spots for new white male musicians in orchestras and symphonies are non-existent.
I don't think this administration will, is capable of, fixing this. But at least they noticed it's a problem.
A lot of orchestras have switched to blind auditions, so I’m not sure what point you are tying to prove exactly. That without affirmative action, white men aren’t getting the spots they used to get and presumptions of superiority they used to get simply by virtue of being white? Not quite the “problem” you are making it out to be.
Principals are selected by committee, not blind audition.
Locking white men out of the arts was fine on January 19th, supported by everyone. Now it is not.
It's hard enough to be an artist. We should support all them, not just POC LGBTQIA+, and women artists.
L
Kind of weird to assume that white guys are being disadvantaged because they are no longer the de facto winner in every competition. People who aren’t straight white males can also be capable leaders and have the sort of star power that excites donors and sells tickets. Everyone there has the chops.
Just because white guys used to systematically exclude everyone who wasn’t a white guy from consideration doesn’t mean people are getting even. But I could understand how equality might feel like oppression when you’re used to privilege.
It had literally switched from keeping out POC to keeping out white. And while some have been quietly unhappy about it, no one had felt able to say anything.
Now that silence has been broken.
Except that is not true. Honestly, it’s time we stop pussyfooting around white men. They owe an explanation why they are not being chosen when forced to compete against others.
Sorry, Bob. The women say you talk to close to them and you make them uncomfortable when you look at their chests instead of their faces. We couldn’t choose you without risking a lawsuit.
Sorry, Joe. The donors don’t like the way you talk over them and dismiss their concerns.
Sorry George, your credentials and recommendations were the weakest out of the bunch.
Sorry Jayden- we all know you’re not carrying your weight. We’re not ready to fire you yet but you’re on the top of the list the next time we need to cut.
Merciless honesty so there can be no doubt they competed and lost on their merits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, it is not just writing, although it can definitely be seen there. In music, there are no new white male conductors in the US or Europe, and spots for new white male musicians in orchestras and symphonies are non-existent.
I don't think this administration will, is capable of, fixing this. But at least they noticed it's a problem.
A lot of orchestras have switched to blind auditions, so I’m not sure what point you are tying to prove exactly. That without affirmative action, white men aren’t getting the spots they used to get and presumptions of superiority they used to get simply by virtue of being white? Not quite the “problem” you are making it out to be.
Principals are selected by committee, not blind audition.
Locking white men out of the arts was fine on January 19th, supported by everyone. Now it is not.
It's hard enough to be an artist. We should support all them, not just POC LGBTQIA+, and women artists.
L
Kind of weird to assume that white guys are being disadvantaged because they are no longer the de facto winner in every competition. People who aren’t straight white males can also be capable leaders and have the sort of star power that excites donors and sells tickets. Everyone there has the chops.
Just because white guys used to systematically exclude everyone who wasn’t a white guy from consideration doesn’t mean people are getting even. But I could understand how equality might feel like oppression when you’re used to privilege.
It had literally switched from keeping out POC to keeping out white. And while some have been quietly unhappy about it, no one had felt able to say anything.
Now that silence has been broken.
Anonymous wrote:You guys can scream and shout about how publishing isn’t discriminatory against white men, religious people, straight people, etc all you want. You might even be telling the truth and of course it is nuanced. The world of high literary fiction is different than the world of romantasy which is different from short story, etc. I suspect that the actual story is a lot more complex and nuanced.
But the point is that perception matters here, and the perception is that education, libraries, and publishing have swung to the far left. So, many voters won’t see these actions as authoritarian. They’ll see them as correcting the excesses of the past decade. I do not agree with this myself, I am just saying what I think a lot of people think now.
Essentially this: if you or someone adjacent to you lobbied for books to be banned or restricted because they were allegedly hateful, or if you favored excluding authors based on identity, you don’t have a lot of ground to stand on as far as complaining about authoritarianism. You had a chance to stand up for free speech and you didn’t take it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, it is not just writing, although it can definitely be seen there. In music, there are no new white male conductors in the US or Europe, and spots for new white male musicians in orchestras and symphonies are non-existent.
I don't think this administration will, is capable of, fixing this. But at least they noticed it's a problem.
A lot of orchestras have switched to blind auditions, so I’m not sure what point you are tying to prove exactly. That without affirmative action, white men aren’t getting the spots they used to get and presumptions of superiority they used to get simply by virtue of being white? Not quite the “problem” you are making it out to be.
Principals are selected by committee, not blind audition.
Locking white men out of the arts was fine on January 19th, supported by everyone. Now it is not.
It's hard enough to be an artist. We should support all them, not just POC LGBTQIA+, and women artists.
L
Kind of weird to assume that white guys are being disadvantaged because they are no longer the de facto winner in every competition. People who aren’t straight white males can also be capable leaders and have the sort of star power that excites donors and sells tickets. Everyone there has the chops.
Just because white guys used to systematically exclude everyone who wasn’t a white guy from consideration doesn’t mean people are getting even. But I could understand how equality might feel like oppression when you’re used to privilege.