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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter if it's a pit or a boxer. It attacked unprovoked. It should be destroyed.

It probably will be, which is sad, but I don't think it's fair to say it 'attacked unprovoked'. The story the guy was willing to tell on himself involves several elements that would excite a dog, especially a high-energy working breed. The bites are to his shoes (allegedly) and his forearm(s). That doesn't scream dog attack.

I'm not saying he should keep the dog. At all. That dog needs to be rehomed immediately. People with 3 kids under 10 shouldn't have a dog at all, IMO, unless they're qualified handlers with a lot of experience and no day job. But I don't think you can put 100% responsibility for this incident on the dog.

It's moot. The dog will likely be destroyed anyway, because who wants a dog with a bite history when so many don't have that. How sad.

Umm what part of all those stitches “doesn’t scream dog attack”?

They're punctures, not tears, for starters. The long one, in the straight line, (that isn't all the way through in all parts) says "deep scratch" not "grab and shake". While they don't look great, these aren't really significant injuries. The fact that they're localized to the body part he was likely trying to use to control the dog also says bite, not mauling/attack.

He has multiple bites on both arms. I would call it a maul because it is so many bites.

Definitely a boxer. I don’t like pits or boxers or rotties, but that’s a boxer.

A mauling dog doesn't scratch your forearms. This is owner/handler error.

I watched the dude's YouTube.

Bro took his rescued dog he'd only had for 3 months on errands. Leave your dog at home. This is what crates are for. A dog that new to the pack doesn't need that level of external stimulation until it has been tested/proven in a home environment. This dog wasn't being properly trained/handled. Dog also slept on the children's beds at night. That is way too new a dog to have that kind of "privilege". Owner error.

The dog had a history of biting his shoes, which he wrote off as being "a thing herding breeds do". Only this time, the dog bit hard enough to puncture his shoes and hurt his feet (not injure, though). That's owner error. The dog should've been trained to keep its mouth to itself.

Bro then took an agitated dog, stared it down and yelled at it multiple times. That's extremely aggressive behavior... from the human. Again, owner error.

He doesn't describe the process(es) he used to get the dog outside, but none of it seemed to involve a leash. Pushed it? Kicked it? neither is going to de-escalate the situation. Again, owner error. The still-agitated dog then allegedly attacks again. This is basically a provoked attack. Note that all the injuries sustained are shallow, and to the dude's forearms, near the hands. No leg, no thigh, nothing easier for the dog to grab (until dude put his hands into it...)

Where was the dog overnight? Left outside? Kids were home overnight, or at least that's what's implied by him saying the grands were coming to pick them up from the house "the next day". A crate would've been useful...

The next day, when the uncontained dog slipped past his wife (who he'd left alone with the dog?) bro ended up laying on his collared dog to restrain it, instead of, you know, using a leash? Nobody thought to get a muzzle from petsmart when they made the decision to let the dog with a bite history stay in their pack, even overnight? He's "hoping it's the sweet Moose he knows" but not acting as if it's a dog, and a dog who he knows can/will bite?

There's SO much owner error in this story. I hope that the people who hear it will think about how to avoid the avoidable problems this poor dog and its family encountered due to the owner's negligent failure to properly train and contain their animal.

That family is clueless about dogs and/or simply doesn't have what it takes (time/patience/knowledge) of dealing with powerful breed dogs. Apparently, they had a bull mastiff puppy before, raised her for a year and had to re-home due to aggressive behavior. And after that they decided to adopt a rescue boxer...
Oh my, play stupid games - win stupid prizes

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter if it's a pit or a boxer. It attacked unprovoked. It should be destroyed.

It probably will be, which is sad, but I don't think it's fair to say it 'attacked unprovoked'. The story the guy was willing to tell on himself involves several elements that would excite a dog, especially a high-energy working breed. The bites are to his shoes (allegedly) and his forearm(s). That doesn't scream dog attack.

I'm not saying he should keep the dog. At all. That dog needs to be rehomed immediately. People with 3 kids under 10 shouldn't have a dog at all, IMO, unless they're qualified handlers with a lot of experience and no day job. But I don't think you can put 100% responsibility for this incident on the dog.

It's moot. The dog will likely be destroyed anyway, because who wants a dog with a bite history when so many don't have that. How sad.

Umm what part of all those stitches “doesn’t scream dog attack”?

They're punctures, not tears, for starters. The long one, in the straight line, (that isn't all the way through in all parts) says "deep scratch" not "grab and shake". While they don't look great, these aren't really significant injuries. The fact that they're localized to the body part he was likely trying to use to control the dog also says bite, not mauling/attack.

He has multiple bites on both arms. I would call it a maul because it is so many bites.

Definitely a boxer. I don’t like pits or boxers or rotties, but that’s a boxer.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another clickbait anti-pit post

1) Yes, it does most definitely look like a boxer. Know your breeds.
2) Crate. Train. Your. Dog. No excuses. 90% of the chaos in this story goes away if a smarter dog-owner crates the dog.
3) Waving your arms and flapping a towel around and jumping like an idiot while a loud noise causes chaos is going to get a dog's attention.
4) If this truly were a Deadly Pit Bull (mix) wouldn't everyone be dead? Wouldn't he have had his face eaten by the "couch hippo"? Wouldn't there be no survivors left to tell the tale? I mean, choose your narrative here...

But the takeaway shouldn't be "don't adopt a boxer (mix)." It should be "Crating your dog dramatically reduces chance of injury, and gives your dog a safe place to be in the event of unexpected chaos."

If you have to keep your dog locked up to not be eaten perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your pet.

This. I mean presumably the dog was with the family when this alarm went off? Is pp saying that dogs should just be in crates at all times and never actually engage with the family?!

Puppies and new rescues should be crated anytime they're not actively being handled, and should drag a leash in the house for the first several weeks until they're well-established. This is for the dog's well-being, the owner's safety, so your property doesn't get peed on or chewed, etc.

This!
Especially to dragging the leash (and properly sized martingale collar for better control)

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter if it's a pit or a boxer. It attacked unprovoked. It should be destroyed.

It probably will be, which is sad, but I don't think it's fair to say it 'attacked unprovoked'. The story the guy was willing to tell on himself involves several elements that would excite a dog, especially a high-energy working breed. The bites are to his shoes (allegedly) and his forearm(s). That doesn't scream dog attack.

I'm not saying he should keep the dog. At all. That dog needs to be rehomed immediately. People with 3 kids under 10 shouldn't have a dog at all, IMO, unless they're qualified handlers with a lot of experience and no day job. But I don't think you can put 100% responsibility for this incident on the dog.

It's moot. The dog will likely be destroyed anyway, because who wants a dog with a bite history when so many don't have that. How sad.

Umm what part of all those stitches “doesn’t scream dog attack”?

They're punctures, not tears, for starters. The long one, in the straight line, (that isn't all the way through in all parts) says "deep scratch" not "grab and shake". While they don't look great, these aren't really significant injuries. The fact that they're localized to the body part he was likely trying to use to control the dog also says bite, not mauling/attack.

He needed many stitches and his arms are swollen and bruised. Those are definitely bites.

Correct. He was bitten. That hasn't been disputed. There's a difference between a bit and a mauling.

Anonymous wrote:You people are insufferable who TF cares what breed it is? This is scary as hell.

Who cares about facts? Sane people. Especially when stupid tropes are regularly inserted where they don't belong to amp up the fear factor. It matters.

Facts matter.

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t boxers come from pitbulls further up the line? It makes sense that they would look similar and share traits (aggression).

Not really, both APBT and boxers originally came from English bulldog as one of the breed in the mix, so they basically cousins, lol
PS Boxer is considered a bully breed

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter if it's a pit or a boxer. It attacked unprovoked. It should be destroyed.

It probably will be, which is sad, but I don't think it's fair to say it 'attacked unprovoked'. The story the guy was willing to tell on himself involves several elements that would excite a dog, especially a high-energy working breed. The bites are to his shoes (allegedly) and his forearm(s). That doesn't scream dog attack.

I'm not saying he should keep the dog. At all. That dog needs to be rehomed immediately. People with 3 kids under 10 shouldn't have a dog at all, IMO, unless they're qualified handlers with a lot of experience and no day job. But I don't think you can put 100% responsibility for this incident on the dog.

It's moot. The dog will likely be destroyed anyway, because who wants a dog with a bite history when so many don't have that. How sad.

Umm what part of all those stitches “doesn’t scream dog attack”?

They're punctures, not tears, for starters. The long one, in the straight line, (that isn't all the way through in all parts) says "deep scratch" not "grab and shake". While they don't look great, these aren't really significant injuries. The fact that they're localized to the body part he was likely trying to use to control the dog also says bite, not mauling/attack.

He needed many stitches and his arms are swollen and bruised. Those are definitely bites.

You people are insufferable who TF cares what breed it is? This is scary as hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another clickbait anti-pit post

1) Yes, it does most definitely look like a boxer. Know your breeds.
2) Crate. Train. Your. Dog. No excuses. 90% of the chaos in this story goes away if a smarter dog-owner crates the dog.
3) Waving your arms and flapping a towel around and jumping like an idiot while a loud noise causes chaos is going to get a dog's attention.
4) If this truly were a Deadly Pit Bull (mix) wouldn't everyone be dead? Wouldn't he have had his face eaten by the "couch hippo"? Wouldn't there be no survivors left to tell the tale? I mean, choose your narrative here...

But the takeaway shouldn't be "don't adopt a boxer (mix)." It should be "Crating your dog dramatically reduces chance of injury, and gives your dog a safe place to be in the event of unexpected chaos."

If you have to keep your dog locked up to not be eaten perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your pet.

This. I mean presumably the dog was with the family when this alarm went off? Is pp saying that dogs should just be in crates at all times and never actually engage with the family?!

Puppies and new rescues should be crated anytime they're not actively being handled, and should drag a leash in the house for the first several weeks until they're well-established. This is for the dog's well-being, the owner's safety, so your property doesn't get peed on or chewed, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Can those suggesting crate training explain how it would have prevented this situation? Should he have immediately placed the dog in the crate as soon as he noticed agitation or fear in the dog?

That would work, yes. Also, having a crate would've given the dog somewhere to go instead of "outside" or running loose in the house. The dog was uncontained to begin with (which can happen) but then went on to be uncontained, leading to further injuries.

If the dog had been crated after the first incident, the other incidents couldn't have happened the way they're described in this story, where the dog mysteriously/accidentally gets loose and attacks again. More than that though, crate training your dog, whether a puppy or an older adoptee, gives you an excellent baseline for the dog's temperment and rapidly establishes pack order and control measures. This dog didn't seem to have any of that, and the results were disastrous all around.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't matter if it's a pit or a boxer. It attacked unprovoked. It should be destroyed.

It probably will be, which is sad, but I don't think it's fair to say it 'attacked unprovoked'. The story the guy was willing to tell on himself involves several elements that would excite a dog, especially a high-energy working breed. The bites are to his shoes (allegedly) and his forearm(s). That doesn't scream dog attack.

I'm not saying he should keep the dog. At all. That dog needs to be rehomed immediately. People with 3 kids under 10 shouldn't have a dog at all, IMO, unless they're qualified handlers with a lot of experience and no day job. But I don't think you can put 100% responsibility for this incident on the dog.

It's moot. The dog will likely be destroyed anyway, because who wants a dog with a bite history when so many don't have that. How sad.

Umm what part of all those stitches “doesn’t scream dog attack”?

They're punctures, not tears, for starters. The long one, in the straight line, (that isn't all the way through in all parts) says "deep scratch" not "grab and shake". While they don't look great, these aren't really significant injuries. The fact that they're localized to the body part he was likely trying to use to control the dog also says bite, not mauling/attack.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another clickbait anti-pit post

1) Yes, it does most definitely look like a boxer. Know your breeds.
2) Crate. Train. Your. Dog. No excuses. 90% of the chaos in this story goes away if a smarter dog-owner crates the dog.
3) Waving your arms and flapping a towel around and jumping like an idiot while a loud noise causes chaos is going to get a dog's attention.
4) If this truly were a Deadly Pit Bull (mix) wouldn't everyone be dead? Wouldn't he have had his face eaten by the "couch hippo"? Wouldn't there be no survivors left to tell the tale? I mean, choose your narrative here...

But the takeaway shouldn't be "don't adopt a boxer (mix)." It should be "Crating your dog dramatically reduces chance of injury, and gives your dog a safe place to be in the event of unexpected chaos."

If you have to keep your dog locked up to not be eaten perhaps it’s time to reevaluate your pet.

This. I mean presumably the dog was with the family when this alarm went off? Is pp saying that dogs should just be in crates at all times and never actually engage with the family?!

Lol that absolutely a boxer. So even when the breed is specified as a non-pit, people still try to blame it on them. Y’all rabid!