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Anonymous wrote:I thought that kid did incredibly. Very well acted on his part

I dunno.

I know a ton of tweens who could argue for hours and hours. Especially to avoid taking responsibility for things!

Yet I felt bad for him (as did the therapist), after he begged her to like him, even just a little bit.

Sucker

You’re being manipulated by a self-centered DARVO-ing narc.

My takeaway is that some kids are just really rotten then they turn into sadistic teens who blame others.

Plenty of other students were getting bullied in school like the investigator's son. Plenty of other boys are bad at sports and their fathers are disappointed. Plenty of other kids have fathers who eventually lose their tempers.

Jaime seems at first like an innocent kid but his level of sophistication and malice is there. He doesn't use a knife from his own house, he uses a friends, which indicates the stabbing was planned. He then is able to change his clothes and get rid of the murder weapon. When his father asks him if he did it, he stares right back into his eyes and swears he didn't. He threatens the therapist when she visits and takes a great deal of pleasure into scaring her through violence. He violently explodes then ask for another cup of hot chocolate.

Jaime was having issues at school as well, so it wasn't new behavior. There is a huge problem that is getting worse in schools where students are allowed to be completely disruptive and there are very few consequences. It really ruins the learning environment of so many other students and the disruptive students aren't learning their eventually will be consequences.

So I didn't see the toxic masculinity take or that his parents could have done more, I thought he was just an evil kid that not everyone could see at first. If it hadn't been the girl he had killed, it would have been someone else eventually. Jaime totally reminded me of the British murder case of Robert Thompson and Jon Venables where at ten years old they kidnapped and killed the two year old.

The young actor was outstanding!

It's good and very affecting. I don't have a tween boy but I do have a tween girl and it did make me think about parenting quite a bit.

I feel like my primary takeaway is that parents need to be aware of how badly children need their families, and especially their parents, to give them a sense of belonging and worth. The bullying and the social media and the crap school environment and toxic masculinity are part of this particular story too, but what I really took away from it is the idea that human beings desperately need the security of knowing they are loved, wanted, and valued. And kids can really only get that from their families. Maybe once in a blue moon someone can provide that to a child outside of the family environment, but I think even in that situation, if the child isn't feeling that love and belonging from their family, those feelings of worthlessness will creep in and that's how you lose kids to all the rest of it.

I think the story hits home because in this case, the child developed those feelings of worthlessness and winds up externalizing them. I agree he winds up with a personality disorder and, as other posters have pointed out, he simple does not have the capacity to feel empathy or shame, instead just lies and blames to escape any feeling of responsibility (though the final development indicates maybe that changes).

But not all kids are going to externalize it. For some kids maybe it become self harm. Or maybe some kids are better at masking and coping and it just becomes persistent low self esteem and impacts their ability to socialize, their resilience as people. They may never hurt someone else the way Jaime does, and they may never hurt themselves in a way that is visible to others, but they may *hurt* because that wound of feeling like you have no worth, no sense of belonging, never goes away.

Anyway. Take some time to make sure your kid knows they have a place in your home, that you love them for them, that they have value as people regardless of how they perform at school or sports or whatever. That they belong. It's as important as making sure they eat and go to school. It's essential.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like I need to be not half asleep to watch this….
Unf I’m still waiting for Asia jet lag to subside so I can pay attention to the last Severance release.

There is only one more Severance episode coming?? 😳

Anonymous wrote:It was gut wrenching to watch. But I thought the police at the school trying to interview the kids was very odd and unbelievable . I can’t imagine any parent being ok with the police questioning their minor children like that without them being present. Especially the one detective chasing the friend outside of school grounds and interviewing him alone in a back alley. That can’t be legal there.

The boy only became a suspect at the end. He was a witness first and chose to cooperate (the other boy did not).

Anonymous wrote:It was gut wrenching to watch. But I thought the police at the school trying to interview the kids was very odd and unbelievable . I can’t imagine any parent being ok with the police questioning their minor children like that without them being present. Especially the one detective chasing the friend outside of school grounds and interviewing him alone in a back alley. That can’t be legal there.

But in other ways, I feel like their system is more protective of minor suspects than ours is. (I have noticed this on EU detective series also)

Anonymous wrote:So many lib terds got a boner watching a black girl hit a white boy.

What??

You sound pretty unstable bud, seek help yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that kid did incredibly. Very well acted on his part

I dunno.

I know a ton of tweens who could argue for hours and hours. Especially to avoid taking responsibility for things!

Yet I felt bad for him (as did the therapist), after he begged her to like him, even just a little bit.

Sounds like I need to be not half asleep to watch this….
Unf I’m still waiting for Asia jet lag to subside so I can pay attention to the last Severance release.

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else need to put on subtitles? I have happily and easily watched The Crown, Call the Midwife, and Downton Abbey without issue, but with this one, I often had no idea what was said and needed those subtitles.

Crown, Midwife and DA for the most part are rich posh London types that most Americans are familiar with. This show appears to be a mix of regional English accents.

I found this interesting. 1 camera passed to many cameramen

Anonymous wrote:It was gut wrenching to watch. But I thought the police at the school trying to interview the kids was very odd and unbelievable . I can’t imagine any parent being ok with the police questioning their minor children like that without them being present. Especially the one detective chasing the friend outside of school grounds and interviewing him alone in a back alley. That can’t be legal there.

As I understand it, in UK a minor needs an appropriate person/adult with them, which is what the father becomes in the first episode (but first it was the short man/social worker in the police car when they arrested Jamie). In the school scenes, the teacher that is going around with two cops seems to be acting in that appropriate person role.

In the US, the police definitely can come to school and question minors. Depending on what kind of school, the school can refuse to allow the police access, but can also cooperate. A child can request their parents. It depends on jurisdiction, but this can happen in the US.

The detective chasing the friend was because the child fled out a window/ so was in hot pursuit.

In the show, Jamie has 2 friends (one gets arrested for supplying the knife). BUT the other friend it appears doesn't get in trouble (at least that is what I concluded after watching all the episodes). In Episode 2 the third friend tells the other friend his father wouldn't let him speak to the police when they came by the house the day before, and that he isn't allowed to talk about it to anyone. The other friend then says his parents didn't seem to care and were like "whatever". When the fighting breaks out on the playground during the fire drill, that third friend sneaks away from the chaos, and seems to try to separate himself from anything that will draw attention. So it appears parents intervening and tell their children to remain silent kept one kid out of trouble

It was gut wrenching to watch. But I thought the police at the school trying to interview the kids was very odd and unbelievable . I can’t imagine any parent being ok with the police questioning their minor children like that without them being present. Especially the one detective chasing the friend outside of school grounds and interviewing him alone in a back alley. That can’t be legal there.

Did anyone else need to put on subtitles? I have happily and easily watched The Crown, Call the Midwife, and Downton Abbey without issue, but with this one, I often had no idea what was said and needed those subtitles.

The pattern is: never answer the question, attack the person answering the question.