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Anonymous wrote:We looked at a lot of LACs but ruled out Middlebury early on, partly because of the distribution of majors in their common data sets. It has only 1/2 to 2/3 the STEM major rate of most top LACs. Students tend to flock to the strongest depths on a given campus. Also, it says something about the intellectual diversity on campus.

Still upset that your kid didn't get in?

No, didn't bother applying, as the above already indicated.

Not buying because your comment doesn't align with reality. Upset that your kid didn't get in or a troll....maybe both.

So you don't know how to read common data sets, or you can't imagine someone wants STEM percentages above the 20s?

Anonymous wrote:Why is Middlebury's ranking so low? I would've thought it would be t10.

With or without the military academies, which have no place on a SLAC list (and they are also larger than SLACs)?
Anyhow, big drop off after WASP and Bowdoin.
After that drop off, Middlebury is in the next tier of 10 schools, which I really would not distinguish from each other, prestige-wise: Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Barnard, Davidson, W&L, Vassar, Harvey Mudd, and Claremont McKenna.

I would probably include these in the next tier: Smith, Hamilton, Haverford, Colgate, Colby, Bates etc.

We considered visiting Middlebury, but after realizing the closest major airport was Montreal, we passed. Not worth that effort. No direct flights to Burlington from our region. I suspect its remote location impacts geographical diversity of its student body more than usual.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We looked at a lot of LACs but ruled out Middlebury early on, partly because of the distribution of majors in their common data sets. It has only 1/2 to 2/3 the STEM major rate of most top LACs. Students tend to flock to the strongest depths on a given campus. Also, it says something about the intellectual diversity on campus.

Still upset that your kid didn't get in?

No, didn't bother applying, as the above already indicated.

Not buying because your comment doesn't align with reality. Upset that your kid didn't get in or a troll....maybe both.

Anonymous wrote:Over-enrolling by 300+ students over the past few years hasn’t helped with student faculty ratio and financial resources, particularly endowment per student. Although they claim they’re returning to 2,500. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Already back to 2550 on campus and will drop lower when the last of the kids who took a LOA during Covid graduate in May.

They are also no longer housing kids in the Inn on the Green and are selling it this year.

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Anonymous wrote:We looked at a lot of LACs but ruled out Middlebury early on, partly because of the distribution of majors in their common data sets. It has only 1/2 to 2/3 the STEM major rate of most top LACs. Students tend to flock to the strongest depths on a given campus. Also, it says something about the intellectual diversity on campus.

Still upset that your kid didn't get in?

No, didn't bother applying, as the above already indicated.

Anonymous wrote:We looked at a lot of LACs but ruled out Middlebury early on, partly because of the distribution of majors in their common data sets. It has only 1/2 to 2/3 the STEM major rate of most top LACs. Students tend to flock to the strongest depths on a given campus. Also, it says something about the intellectual diversity on campus.

Still upset that your kid didn't get in?

We looked at a lot of LACs but ruled out Middlebury early on, partly because of the distribution of majors in their common data sets. It has only 1/2 to 2/3 the STEM major rate of most top LACs. Students tend to flock to the strongest depths on a given campus. Also, it says something about the intellectual diversity on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:We chose Carleton over Middlebury. Carleton is definitely a top LAC!

Carleton is only relevant if you want to pursue a phd. Irrelevant in high finance, med school, or law school.

With fed funding cut, you soon will have to do research in a foreign country. I strongly suggest against Carleton.

One of the most uniformed takes I've ever seen.

Carleton's med school acceptance rate is one of the highest in the country, double the average, at 80-85%.

Carleton also has a 89% law school acceptance rate, also one of the highest.

As for PhDs, if someone is looking at colleges now, Trump is gone by the time they would be applying to them.

They also do incredibly well with master's programs.

Over the years 75-85% of their students go on to get grad degrees. Why? Because their students have a positive undergraduate learning experience, and ALL categories of grad schools are familiar with the quality of their undergraduate education.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Vassar are also ranked higher than Midd and that seems right to me. Middlebury is having trouble attracting talented faculty in certain areas.

For example …?

This comment made me made me curious as well. This Campus article discusses staff issues without an apparent inclusion of faculty:

https://www.middleburycampus.com/article/2024/04/notes-from-the-desk-why-a-2024-staff-issue

This is the first paragraph:

Since our last staff issue, Middlebury has unveiled a new skill-based compensation system, seen rising housing costs and childcare shortages, faced severe understaffing in the dining halls and Davis Family Library, and seen some of its most experienced staff members leave.

Over-enrolling by 300+ students over the past few years hasn’t helped with student faculty ratio and financial resources, particularly endowment per student. Although they claim they’re returning to 2,500. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with previous poster. Middlebury is a decent school but nothing special about it.

And you would be incorrect.

Midd was ranked top five prior to the inclusion of social justice components and the reduction/elimination of actual quality components (like class size, faculty with terminal degree) in the rankings methodology.

Midd is every bit the equal of WASP especially if you are looking for a finance/law/medicine career.

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely one of the top 10.

Schools like Carleton Harvey Mudd are largely irrelevant but ranked higher.

Sorry, but you are mistaken.

Anonymous wrote:Hamilton and Vassar are also ranked higher than Midd and that seems right to me. Middlebury is having trouble attracting talented faculty in certain areas.

For example …?