Anonymous
Post 03/25/2025 21:17     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The goal is to trash the US and the US Economy. Look at everything taking place through that lens, and it all makes perfect sense.


But why do trump/muck want to destroy the US economy? How does this benefit them?


see the authoritarian playbook


You can read HOW FASCISM WORKS by Jason Stanley, too. Or see if you can find articles by him or others who study dictatorships online.

"Make Hungary Great Again" came from Orban. Trump stole the idea.



Jason Stanley is leaving Yale for the University if Toronto. Other scholars will surely follow out of the usa.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 11:07     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
There's no logic. He's just pandering to his idiot fanbase. They love Made in America!!! and want more of it. He knows if he says "these tariffs will help boost American manufacturing" that they'll believe it. And they have. So he was successful.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 10:41     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can get some Republicans to explain.

For example, we produce very little of our own aluminum. It takes 2-3 years in the US to build a large aluminum plant, which means we are stuck importing for a few years and paying more. Also, who would invest to build a plant when Trump changes his mind by the hour? 25%, then 50%, make a carve out for some favors etc. No business is going to invest in an asset that needs to be profitable for a long run to make it worth the cost, when there is constant change.



Defense issue. Onshore production for military material construction. As an aside we have less shipbuilding capacity than china.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 09:54     Subject: Re:Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Anonymous wrote:Obama Tariffs but nobody seems to recall, lol:

OBAMA TARIFF ACTIONS:

1. Obama put tariffs on solar panels.

2. Obama slapped tariffs on tires.

3. Obama put tariffs on imported steel.

"President Obama stated on Jan. 24, 2012: “I will not stand by when our competitors don’t play by the rules. We’ve brought trade cases against China at nearly twice the rate as the last administration – and it’s made a difference. Over a thousand Americans are working today because we stopped a surge in Chinese tires. But we need to do more. It’s not right when another country lets our movies, music, and software be pirated. It’s not fair when foreign manufacturers have a leg up on ours only because they’re heavily subsidized.”

Obama was wrong then, too. Also, tariffs was not a central piece of Obama’s agenda. He was tasked with recovery from the Great Financial Crisis of 2008 and Obamacare
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 09:17     Subject: Re:Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Obama Tariffs but nobody seems to recall, lol:

OBAMA TARIFF ACTIONS:

1. Obama put tariffs on solar panels.

2. Obama slapped tariffs on tires.

3. Obama put tariffs on imported steel.

"President Obama stated on Jan. 24, 2012: “I will not stand by when our competitors don’t play by the rules. We’ve brought trade cases against China at nearly twice the rate as the last administration – and it’s made a difference. Over a thousand Americans are working today because we stopped a surge in Chinese tires. But we need to do more. It’s not right when another country lets our movies, music, and software be pirated. It’s not fair when foreign manufacturers have a leg up on ours only because they’re heavily subsidized.”
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 09:09     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Anonymous wrote:We need tariffs to onshore manufacturing, create jobs, raise revenue, and restore our industrial capacity so we can even compete in case of war. We had lots of tariffs in the 19th century, and the economy grew faster then than in the free trade area. Got it?


This is an extremely antiquated view of how an economy works. Your late 19th century tariffs ultimately led to WWI and the Great Depression. And even if Republicans wanted a closed economy with little trade or competition, it would literally take decades for the US to detangle from the global economy and build new domestic factories and mines. In the meantime, you get wars and great depressions. Which seems to be where Republicans are taking us.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 09:06     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
Anonymous wrote:We need tariffs to onshore manufacturing, create jobs, raise revenue, and restore our industrial capacity so we can even compete in case of war. We had lots of tariffs in the 19th century, and the economy grew faster then than in the free trade area. Got it?


Tariffs aren't going to onshore manufacturing or create jobs. Manufacturing is going to go where there's cheap labor and will be increasingly provided via robotics. The 19th Century is in no way a parallel for Trump's attention-seeking derangement.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 09:01     Subject: Re:Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
We need tariffs to onshore manufacturing, create jobs, raise revenue, and restore our industrial capacity so we can even compete in case of war. We had lots of tariffs in the 19th century, and the economy grew faster then than in the free trade area. Got it?


How long will it take to onshore manufacturing? How do we restore our industrial capacity without investment (stock market tanking)? How can investors be sure that Trump is not just a flash in the pan and that the investments will pay off? As soon as the next president comes in tariffs could go down. Heck, he seems to change his mind on a daily basis.

The next war? Good luck with that.
Anonymous
Post 03/14/2025 08:57     Subject: Can someone explain the logic of these tariffs?
No. Even trumpet himself cannot explain.