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Anonymous wrote:Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Bro, there are dozens of breed rescues, and none of them are empty right now. You're not trying very hard, which strongly suggests you're not ready to put in the effort and energy it takes to train and maintain a well-behaved dog.

"Where does that leave people like me? Dogless forever I guess..." The victimese is SO strong!

Actually, the springer spaniel rescue has basically shut down because they don’t get any; golden retriever rescue does not have any non-senior dogs; Bernese rescue only has ones out west, etc. Many breed rescues in fact are close to empty.
But OP should look at the rescues that bring dogs from the south and foster them until adoption. That’s where all the non pits are. Not trying to start the pit argument again but everyone has different preferences and if you don’t want a pit, no reason you should get one.

If you don't want a "pit", fine. But if you haven't figured out how to find non-pit-looking dogs, it's because you haven't looked hard enough. If you're not even willing to put in the work to internet search, you probably aren't going to put in the work to train a rescued dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Bro, there are dozens of breed rescues, and none of them are empty right now. You're not trying very hard, which strongly suggests you're not ready to put in the effort and energy it takes to train and maintain a well-behaved dog.

"Where does that leave people like me? Dogless forever I guess..." The victimese is SO strong!

Actually, the springer spaniel rescue has basically shut down because they don’t get any; golden retriever rescue does not have any non-senior dogs; Bernese rescue only has ones out west, etc. Many breed rescues in fact are close to empty.
But OP should look at the rescues that bring dogs from the south and foster them until adoption. That’s where all the non pits are. Not trying to start the pit argument again but everyone has different preferences and if you don’t want a pit, no reason you should get one.

My brother lives on 3 acres and has a couple of horses and also on the side they occasionally breed dogs. They have small purebreed dogs that are very popular and they have no problem selling the puppies for $2000-2500 each. They live in California. If you live close enough to Penn where there are so many dog breeders then you aren’t going to get as much money.

The litter is usually 3-4 puppies and a couple of times they have had 5 or maybe even 6. It is work when the puppies are born but their kids pitch in for the 8-9 weeks. And my SIL works part time from home.

They definitely make money on this side venture and use it as vacation money because they have to pay people to take care jf the dogs and horses when they go on vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Our dog is on a limited registration from the breeder so no. Plus taking care of all of the puppies isn't exactly something most people can do working outside of the home.

Correct. Most people who do this responsibly and ethically are professionals. The few non-professionals who do this right way tend to need to fit in a specific profile. It is expensive and actually takes *multiple* people around the clock at home when the puppies are young as well as space and a lot of knowledge of dogs.

My in-laws considered doing this at one point and ultimately decided against it. But to give you an idea of why they even considered it, their circumstances at the time were that they both retired from full time work very early (before 55) and they were both going to be involved in caring for teh dogs, all their kids were out of the house, they were both in good health and fit, they lived in a large property in a rural area, they had owned show dogs for years so were extremely well known in the dog community, etc. Not many people have that set of circumstances.

Honestly? I think this is part of the problem. Not your in-laws specifically; they sound like excellent candidates and responsible people, which is the point. The people who understand what it takes to breed animals responsibly "nope" themselves out of it because they know how much work it is. The people who are breeding animals right now probably shouldn't be. While there are limited exceptions, there are already way too many "pet grade" dogs, and far too few people who know how to properly raise and train dogs.

We don't need any more backyard-bred dogs.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Bro, there are dozens of breed rescues, and none of them are empty right now. You're not trying very hard, which strongly suggests you're not ready to put in the effort and energy it takes to train and maintain a well-behaved dog.

"Where does that leave people like me? Dogless forever I guess..." The victimese is SO strong!

Anonymous wrote:Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Sign up for fostering, get involved, and you'll see that rescues do have non-pit mixes all the time. And once you find your next dog - foster-fail

Anonymous wrote:Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Isn’t the goal eventually that there are no dogs in shelters and all dogs are well bred, healthy, sound temperament dogs that have a safe place to land with the breeder if they can no longer be taken care of?

Hooray if that’s already the way it is for your breed of choice!

Interesting question these days OP. I have been dog-less for a while but every time I look at rescues and shelters all they have is pitt bulls. My previous dog was attacked by an unleashed pitt bull so I do not ever want one. I have never wanted to go to a breeder either. So where does that leave people like me? Dog less forever I guess? It's a strange position to be in for this long. Still not seeing any other mixes in the shelters for some time.

Anonymous wrote:No. Our dog is on a limited registration from the breeder so no. Plus taking care of all of the puppies isn't exactly something most people can do working outside of the home.

Correct. Most people who do this responsibly and ethically are professionals. The few non-professionals who do this right way tend to need to fit in a specific profile. It is expensive and actually takes *multiple* people around the clock at home when the puppies are young as well as space and a lot of knowledge of dogs.

My in-laws considered doing this at one point and ultimately decided against it. But to give you an idea of why they even considered it, their circumstances at the time were that they both retired from full time work very early (before 55) and they were both going to be involved in caring for teh dogs, all their kids were out of the house, they were both in good health and fit, they lived in a large property in a rural area, they had owned show dogs for years so were extremely well known in the dog community, etc. Not many people have that set of circumstances.

We adopted a chocolate lab from a rescue. It’s a male, and neutered, but we would never consider breeding. Too much work, too expensive, and there are plenty of dogs to adopt.

This is how dog breeding was 100 years ago. My great uncle was a hobby breeder — he was a hunter and bred spaniels. If he and his friends thought they had two really great dogs, they would breed them, keep a couple for themselves and give the rest to friends or family, maybe for a small amount. I sort of wish that was still the system, with the added benefit of modern tests for inherited conditions. I think there are certain working or sport breeds where it still sort of works that way, because the owners are primarily interested in new dogs that they can use for purpose.

We have purebred dogs and I appreciate the alc system that allows me to see no cross breeding going back 6 generations plus tests for breed inherited conditions. But I don’t like that the breeders typically breed the dogs starting at age 2, and aren’t required to provide health updates to the AKC registry. Sometimes with googling you can figure out how long a grandparent lived, but I think it should be required as part of the AKc process.

It’s a bit hard to break into the breeding world now because every breeder sells with a requirement that you don’t breed the dog.

I don’t breed dogs (not my thing, I rescue) but I breed horses. There is a lot more value in a well-bred foal, which goes for 15-20k.

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Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I guess that makes me one, as well. PP's post is solid. People who can train a dog can train a pit bull. People who can't train a dog can't train any breed of dog. You're either willing to put in the work to learn or you're on the internet, calling names and hurling insults.

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And pitts are not the most difficult dogs to train - in general, they relatively smart, food motivated, engaged and not particularly stubborn, good combo to work with

They didn't acquire the nickname "couch hippos" for no reason! They're more of a velcro dog than most toy breeds, and really want to spend most of the time lazing on the couch

I do find referring to pitts as "couch hippos" or "velvet hippos" to try to indicate they are docile as funny given actual hippos are super territorial and kill hundreds of people a year.

We get it, you hate them and you won't ever change your mind. Take your hard head and the soft backside currently cradling it and go to the hate thread or the hate reddit or wherever else you haters congregate and be stupid somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:All I see in shelters where I live is pit mixes. Curious if anyone has considered breeding to give puppies away

This is the stupidest trollbait on the stupidest forum on the best site for trollololz...

"shelters" are the last-ditch resort of bad breeders/owners, and are frequently filled with dogs someone simply turned loose rather than try to responsibly rehome, or dogs that were impounded from criminally-negligent breeders. Yes, you do occassionally find a decent owner-surrender. But more often, they're the "last resort" place for last resort dogs.

If you haven't learned that there are for-profit and non-profit breed rescues, it's simply because you didn't bother to google "how to adopt a dog" and do some homework first. I said it and meant it: people like you shouldn't own dogs. You'll get a breed because it's "cute" or "not a pit bull", put the same amount of effort into learning how to care for it that you did in selecting it, and become the sort of ignorant AH dog owner who gives the rest of us responsibly caring for our properly-trained animals a bad name.

Again, you're a troll posting ragebait, and it's not even a high-quality shitpost, but there's the reality for anyone sane who might be reading.

Angry pit bull owner alert.

I guess that makes me one, as well. PP's post is solid. People who can train a dog can train a pit bull. People who can't train a dog can't train any breed of dog. You're either willing to put in the work to learn or you're on the internet, calling names and hurling insults.

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And pitts are not the most difficult dogs to train - in general, they relatively smart, food motivated, engaged and not particularly stubborn, good combo to work with

They didn't acquire the nickname "couch hippos" for no reason! They're more of a velcro dog than most toy breeds, and really want to spend most of the time lazing on the couch

I do find referring to pitts as "couch hippos" or "velvet hippos" to try to indicate they are docile as funny given actual hippos are super territorial and kill hundreds of people a year.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never wished my dog could sire a litter (he’s neutered), but I have wondered, purely hypothetically, if I would want to have him cloned if that were a thing people did. Sometimes I think yes, and sometimes I think no.

Like the president of Argentina! He has dog clones.

Omg, really?! I’m gonna need to read up on that, lol.

You should read up on the cloned polo ponies. It's crazy.