Anonymous wrote:When anyone would voice opposition to the above, they would be shut down. Called names to shun themS

Sometimes they would be publicly humiliated and sometimes that they would lose their jobs for voicing dissent. And here we are.

I am a democrat and I think things got socially weird during the pandemic. Too much time in isolation and on the internet. Usually social change is slow but it seems like we are having cultural pendulum swings to point that it is disorienting.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

Well said, I too am a traditional conservative who is very happy with Trump so far. He is doing exactly what he promised. Securing the border, enforcing immigration laws, getting rid of divisive DEI policies, bringing accountability and business-like approach to government, restoring respect for the police. I found his speech on Tuesday informative, honest, funny at times, and made me proud to be an American. I can't even imagine how depressing a SOTU with Kamala babbling and cackling for an hour but saying nothing would be. DCUM runs about 90% left wing, so it leaves a misleading impression that the whole country is appalled by Trump. Fortunately, most Americans are getting what they voted for and are happy about that.

I am not sure there was a single line in the speech Tuesday that had truth in it. Even the story about the mom who's kid was "indoctrined" into being transgender was a lie. Personally, I expect more out of our leaders.

And our government provides services. It is not a business, but rather the culmination of a social contract. Evolving it into a business does nothing but enrich the already rich at the expense of the middle class and poor.

I keep saying “Hello?! The fed government is an employment agency.Dc is filled with disabled people. You see them everywhere when you park. More deaf people gathered than anywhere else.DC Filled with veterans. All going to work for the feds. THIS IS NOT a coincidence. We all decided this was okay

Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

This administration does not stand for anyone but itself...power and greed. You will not get anything but hate and curt nod for an applause. It will only deliver that thru dismantling democratic norms which is happening now and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:They were clapping and hootin along with the other Republicans during Trump's address to Congress.

This. They no longer exist. Or are too afraid to admit it.

Or they’re all in on Trump’s pump and dump scheme.

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Anonymous wrote:They were clapping and hootin along with the other Republicans during Trump's address to Congress.

yes, they have been spineless. the only conservative I've seen with a spine so far is Amy Coney Barrett (recently) and sometimes Lisa Murkowski.

Liz Cheney?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

Well said, I too am a traditional conservative who is very happy with Trump so far. He is doing exactly what he promised. Securing the border, enforcing immigration laws, getting rid of divisive DEI policies, bringing accountability and business-like approach to government, restoring respect for the police. I found his speech on Tuesday informative, honest, funny at times, and made me proud to be an American. I can't even imagine how depressing a SOTU with Kamala babbling and cackling for an hour but saying nothing would be. DCUM runs about 90% left wing, so it leaves a misleading impression that the whole country is appalled by Trump. Fortunately, most Americans are getting what they voted for and are happy about that.

You are not concerned with the fact that DOGE has not reduced inefficiency. Elon (unelected)'s crew of youngsters has randomly fired government employees without intentionally doing any analysis about performance quality, necessity of job, security, etc. Just straight across the board cuts with zero analysis. Kind of like you do at a failing tech start-up which has limited consequences because it doesn't handle our nuclear capabilities, financial regulation/safeguarding, health benefits, etc.

How do you feel about the markets tanking and Trump's game of chicken on tarriffs increasing inflation and making a recession more likely?

How do you feel about Trump's treatment towards our ally Canada?

How do you feel about Trump agreeing with Putin and signing onto his world vision? Does it make you feel more safe?

How do you feel about planes falling out of the sky? Since Trump appointed the Secretary of Transportation from the former cast of the Real World to succeed Buttigieg. No planes fell from the sky during Buttigieg's watch, but many are on Sean Duffy's watch.

How do you feel about pardoning all the Jan 6th insurrectionists? Several of which are back in jail for committing more crimes.

How do you feel about him allowing Andrew Tate to return to USA from prison in Europe for sex crimes/trafficking?

Anonymous wrote:Many are on the Bulwark.

Second this.

When anyone would voice opposition to the above, they would be shut down. Called names to shun themS

Sometimes they would be publicly humiliated and sometimes that they would lose their jobs for voicing dissent. And here we are.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

Well said, I too am a traditional conservative who is very happy with Trump so far. He is doing exactly what he promised. Securing the border, enforcing immigration laws, getting rid of divisive DEI policies, bringing accountability and business-like approach to government, restoring respect for the police. I found his speech on Tuesday informative, honest, funny at times, and made me proud to be an American. I can't even imagine how depressing a SOTU with Kamala babbling and cackling for an hour but saying nothing would be. DCUM runs about 90% left wing, so it leaves a misleading impression that the whole country is appalled by Trump. Fortunately, most Americans are getting what they voted for and are happy about that.

I am not sure there was a single line in the speech Tuesday that had truth in it. Even the story about the mom who's kid was "indoctrined" into being transgender was a lie. Personally, I expect more out of our leaders.

And our government provides services. It is not a business, but rather the culmination of a social contract. Evolving it into a business does nothing but enrich the already rich at the expense of the middle class and poor.

Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

I agree with everything said here.

Anonymous wrote:They were clapping and hootin along with the other Republicans during Trump's address to Congress.

yes, they have been spineless. the only conservative I've seen with a spine so far is Amy Coney Barrett (recently) and sometimes Lisa Murkowski.

Utah has a largest percentage of traditional conservatives.

While Trump won Utah decisively, he underperformed there relative to other deep red states.

When you consider how overwhelmingly white Utah is, compared to say Alabama, which has a large minority of mostly democrat-voting blacks, it just underscores how different the white conservatives are in Utah vs Alabama. Utah white conservatives are less motivated by racial/nativist rhetoric than deep south conservatives.

Tl;dr: if you are a non-white conservative, move to Utah. The white conservatives there are actually decent people.

Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

Well said, I too am a traditional conservative who is very happy with Trump so far. He is doing exactly what he promised. Securing the border, enforcing immigration laws, getting rid of divisive DEI policies, bringing accountability and business-like approach to government, restoring respect for the police. I found his speech on Tuesday informative, honest, funny at times, and made me proud to be an American. I can't even imagine how depressing a SOTU with Kamala babbling and cackling for an hour but saying nothing would be. DCUM runs about 90% left wing, so it leaves a misleading impression that the whole country is appalled by Trump. Fortunately, most Americans are getting what they voted for and are happy about that.

Anonymous wrote:I am a traditional, pro-family values, pro-America, church-going conservative.

While I find Trump’s blunt, NYC-style of talk rather distasteful, and no one admires his family history of infidelity and divorce, his policies are the opposite of what you progressives have put in place over the THREE (3) terms of President Obama.

And let’s stop pretending it was demented Biden directing the country; Obama ran things from behind the curtain.

You cheered on the invasion of our country, demonized our police, and rammed through a truly weird transgender agenda in our public schools, which even my gay friends find really weird.

BTW - I do agree with you progressives in favor war in Ukraine until victory; I want to see Putin’s evil-empire 2.0 completely collapse because I have family in Europe, and I know there will never be peace or real security in Europe until the Putin / puppet Medvedev regime collapses. Putin can’t be trusted.

I oddly mostly agree with you. Things got weird after the pandemic, there was a lot of shrinking of opposing opinions bc the kids/youth had us all scared that they would finally crack . I d k. Things got really, weird really fast.

Many are on the Bulwark.