Bad idea for Trump to go after big law. These are people who have the means to fight him — and the judges, all the way up to the Supreme Court I bet, are way more likely to protect the lawyers aka their profession and all of their big law friends and old classmates.

Anonymous wrote:There was an admin law conference a few months ago and on a panel about the civil service, there was one more conservative-leaning professor. He all but rolled his eyes about some of the concerns of politicization of DOJ, targeting enemies, mass firing of federal employees, loyalty tests, etc. “He didn’t do that in his first administration, you all need to calm down!” Etc.

The concerns raised by the panel and audience members are NOTHING to compared to what has actually happened within the first few weeks of this administration. Hope those “omg you all are delusional and hysterical” people feel great. They’re probably still denying reality to themselves.

I attended this. That panel was terrible. But knowing the people on it, they are definitely still in denial.

Anonymous wrote:They’re also threatening law schools and sending letters saying they won’t hire a grad from a law school that has any sort of “inclusion” in its curriculum. So like, all good law schools.

This is interesting because the top law schools have a chokehold on clerkships and prestigious jobs. So if they don't bend - and many of their students and donors will not want them to - that leaves few options for conservative students who are trying to fast-track into government and judgeships. If you're conservative, you will either have the "DEI stain" of Georgetown on your resume, or you can go to George Mason but have fewer opportunities.

Meanwhile your liberal peers will have no problems getting jobs outside of government, because no one serious is bothered by whether your T10 law school has a DEI program.

Anonymous wrote:The idea that Big Law is some sort of bastion of truth, equality, and free speech is ridiculous. Feck them. They are complicit in destroying our environment, ruining our healthcare and enriching corporations at the expense of non-rich people.

Well, then, just wait until they all fall in line and work to advance Trump's interests.

The First Thing we Do, Let’s Kill All the Lawyers

I've been saying here...They will attack elite institutions. They are doing that now, it seems, by threatening law schools, and he threatened universities earlier this week by saying he'd take away federal funding if students protested.

That's step six of Curtis Yarvin's Butterfly Revolution.

"The seeds were planted in Silicon Valley—not with bad intentions, let’s say, but with a guiding ideology: optimization, efficiency, disruption.

At first, this ethos reshaped industries—tech startups dismantled legacy businesses, social media replaced traditional media, algorithms overtook human decision-making. But what started as a way to optimize commerce has evolved into a method of restructuring governance itself.

As Jon Evans wrote, “Ten years ago, I was right to be more scared of Silicon Valley than the Islamic State.” Today, those fears have materialized in the form of concentrated digital power, algorithmic governance, and the slow dismantling of traditional state mechanisms.

Silicon Valley’s core philosophy—break systems to build something new—was once about software. Now, it’s about society. What started as a way to optimize industries has evolved into a method of restructuring governance, where technology is no longer a neutral tool—it has become a ruling force, the operating system of power itself—shaping economies, elections, and even public perception itself."

https://irishubbes.substack.com/p/ever-heard-of-the-butterfly-revolution

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

I was a new attorney during the first administration because I believe in public service. A lot of attorneys feel that way, and the government is a huge employer of attorneys. They weren’t this level of crazy and destructive, though.

Yeah, I'm currently a fed gov atty. Now is not the time for any attorney to be entering federal service. This isn't like any other time in the last 100 years.

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Anonymous wrote:He is going after Covington because they are representing jack smith. It’s completely insane and I sincerely hope that they get so much more business because of it.

And the law firm that represented Hillary Clinton. I’m laughing at the fact that we’ve exhausted every Dx ascribed to him. I’m less worried about this stupid old man’s rotting brain than the majority of government officials doing nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

I was a new attorney during the first administration because I believe in public service. A lot of attorneys feel that way, and the government is a huge employer of attorneys. They weren’t this level of crazy and destructive, though.

Yeah, I'm currently a fed gov atty. Now is not the time for any attorney to be entering federal service. This isn't like any other time in the last 100 years.

There was an admin law conference a few months ago and on a panel about the civil service, there was one more conservative-leaning professor. He all but rolled his eyes about some of the concerns of politicization of DOJ, targeting enemies, mass firing of federal employees, loyalty tests, etc. “He didn’t do that in his first administration, you all need to calm down!” Etc.

The concerns raised by the panel and audience members are NOTHING to compared to what has actually happened within the first few weeks of this administration. Hope those “omg you all are delusional and hysterical” people feel great. They’re probably still denying reality to themselves.

Anonymous wrote:I am a lawyer with no love of Big Law at all (never worked in it, never will) but this is scary. It's purely motivated by politics.

He's ordered the EEOC to investigate these firms for violations of the Civil Rights Act.

The executive order he signed today singles out Perkins and specifies it is doing so because of it's involvement with the Steele Dossier.

This is political retribution and nothing else.

I hope they sue him into oblivion. Put all the big brains in these firms that usually spend their time helping big corporations be .05% more profitable and instead do something actually useful here.

This. I hope he beat the wrong hornet's nest.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.

I was a new attorney during the first administration because I believe in public service. A lot of attorneys feel that way, and the government is a huge employer of attorneys. They weren’t this level of crazy and destructive, though.

I am a lawyer with no love of Big Law at all (never worked in it, never will) but this is scary. It's purely motivated by politics.

He's ordered the EEOC to investigate these firms for violations of the Civil Rights Act.

The executive order he signed today singles out Perkins and specifies it is doing so because of it's involvement with the Steele Dossier.

This is political retribution and nothing else.

I hope they sue him into oblivion. Put all the big brains in these firms that usually spend their time helping big corporations be .05% more profitable and instead do something actually useful here.

Anonymous wrote:The idea that Big Law is some sort of bastion of truth, equality, and free speech is ridiculous. Feck them. They are complicit in destroying our environment, ruining our healthcare and enriching corporations at the expense of non-rich people.

And this is definitely going to fix all of those issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm no expert, but, uh, free speech anyone?

I mean they can’t be officially successful at this kind of hiring practice but it will certainly have a chilling effect, to a degree. It will also embolden some. As I said in my other post, they are also threatening law schools and demanding they change their curriculums or they will ban any grad from that school. Not that many new grads think they’ll get hired by the govt anytime soon anyway but that’s a scary threat for a student or new lawyer.

Why would a law student want to work for this government right now.