Anonymous wrote:ED to Chicago/Wash U is a good plan. FWIW, my kid got into Wash U ED1 with a similar profile (and is very happy there.)

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ED to Chicago/Wash U is a good plan. FWIW, my kid got into Wash U ED1 with a similar profile (and is very happy there.)

Your DC really has no preference out of all these schools? I had an easy going kid that could be happy at a ton of different schools. This is a great scenario. However, they still liked a handful of schools best. This is where you should focus, OP. If just trying to get into the highest ranked school possible, definitely ED to Chicago and ED2 WashU or Middlebury.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

Depends on what he wants to do with the degree. If he wants Econ to wall st or consulting, then Williams the best. If he wants to go to grad school later, the. Chicago

Yeah but ED to Williams is a non-starter (actually a disadvantage); it has no ED2, and no strategy should involve waiting and hoping during the RD round. The Williams to Wall St. pipeline is also filtered through athletic teams (42% of males at Williams are athletes) more than you may think…

'What utter crap. Only 30% of the incoming classes are made up of athletes and students tend to drop sports after freshman year.

Facts are stubborn things. Here’s the government data: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details

Sounds like you are really riled up, are projecting, and need to use the facilities: best of luck with that. Then relax, and sleep well.

It’s kinda shocking how poorly you did this.
I followed the link. Only 30% of men in sports, shocking…

Different poster. I followed the link too. Male athletes =421, total male students = 1012 => 41.6 percent

=42%. We have encountered a special kind of troll.

Georgetown

I don’t think the list is random - one of my kids had a similar list. Nothing too big, but open to big small. Drive or direct flight from nyc. No southern schools. Smart driven peer group. Strong faculty. Real school culture.

Are people thrown off bcs it’s small and medium schools both?

Anonymous wrote:Unhooked.

Boy, full pay, Econ (but could apply as history if that helps, has a ton of history EC), private, 3.8+, 1520

What would be EA or ED strategy w that list?

His stats is very strong for any of the listed schools.

Agree with others, ED at UChicago.
I would ED2 at Bowdoin. However, this is largely moot because it's almost certain he will get in UChicago if ED.

Anonymous wrote:Unhooked.

Boy, full pay, Econ (but could apply as history if that helps, has a ton of history EC), private, 3.8+, 1520

What would be EA or ED strategy w that list?

I’d ED1 to Wash. U. and ED2 to the University of Rochester.

Because:

- It looks from this list as if your son is probably a great, but not spectacular, full-pay student who wants a solid economics department and can tolerate cold weather.

- Otherwise: The list is pretty random. If your son hasn’t thought much about location and can tolerate a midsize school in a city, maybe that’s better than a small school in the wilderness.

- Wash. U. is a great school but seems to be a little unfashionable right now. Maybe it’s a good time to apply there as a liberal arts economics major.

- The University of Rochester is much less selective than the other schools on your list but is at about the same level of quality. Instead of struggling to jam into ND, why not just stroll into Rochester?

Anonymous wrote:Step 1: Decide if he wants Chicago. There are pros and cons. Read about campus safety and make sure you are comfortable. Harsh Chicago winter. Quarter system. OK with all that? Then ED1 and be done. Otherwise, forget Chicago.
Step 2: REA to Georgetown + EA ND. Best case scenario, he gets into one or both and you can spam 10 other more selective schools. We know a kid in this happy position right now. Midd, Bowdoin, and Williams will still be on the table: ED isn't much help at those schools for a non-athlete. Add in a few Ivies just to see. And if he loves WashU, ED2 to WashU.

This. This is the play. I don’t think he’s getting into ND though unless Catholic and or Catholic HS.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

That stats at our school will get him in T10 schools.

It’s private. 3.8uw is quite good.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

That stats at our school will get him in T10 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

Best Econ program is pretty debatable. This isn't about graduate school. Undergrad Econ education-wise, these schools are all quite similar, if not matched.

The undergraduate economics program at UChicago is very rigorous. (Not the business economics track).

- professional economist, who is familiar with the economics departments of the schools in OP’s list

Yes, this is true of all elite school economics departments. For a professional economist, you made an incredibly underwhelming comment.

Sigh…You don’t have to agree with me.

I mentioned my profession only because I happen to have graduated from a top PhD program, almost accepted a tenure-track position at one of the schools on OP’s list, and have several classmates who teach at the others. But again, it’s your choice whether (or not) to consider my opinion.

Assuming that 3.8 is unweighted.

I would ED Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

Best Econ program is pretty debatable. This isn't about graduate school. Undergrad Econ education-wise, these schools are all quite similar, if not matched.

The undergraduate economics program at UChicago is very rigorous. (Not the business economics track).

- professional economist, who is familiar with the economics departments of the schools in OP’s list

Yes, this is true of all elite school economics departments. For a professional economist, you made an incredibly underwhelming comment.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

Best Econ program is pretty debatable. This isn't about graduate school. Undergrad Econ education-wise, these schools are all quite similar, if not matched.

The undergraduate economics program at UChicago is very rigorous. (Not the business economics track).

- professional economist, who is familiar with the economics departments of the schools in OP’s list