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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

Have a Rivian and had a Tesla. It’s amazing what it’s like to drive a car that isn’t just a tin can with an iPad attached to it. Got rid of the Tesla for a Polestar 3, which actually is a quick, solid vehicle. Zero regrets. Found it superior to the BMW I5. Not even in the same league as Tesla.

Back when they first started, Teslas were unique - they created a new market for EVs that didn’t exist before and made them mainstream. They put together a charging network that nobody else can touch in both number of locations and reliability. They deserve credit for that.

But today, they are a cheap electric car and people like them because they either have never driven any other electric car or they have joined the cult of Elon. Or both. You have options today. Use them.

I have the Volvo and prefer the Tesla but you sound bias. Dont worry tarrifs will even the playing field and you can pay more for the Volvo or bmw.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

Have a Rivian and had a Tesla. It’s amazing what it’s like to drive a car that isn’t just a tin can with an iPad attached to it. Got rid of the Tesla for a Polestar 3, which actually is a quick, solid vehicle. Zero regrets. Found it superior to the BMW I5. Not even in the same league as Tesla.

Back when they first started, Teslas were unique - they created a new market for EVs that didn’t exist before and made them mainstream. They put together a charging network that nobody else can touch in both number of locations and reliability. They deserve credit for that.

But today, they are a cheap electric car and people like them because they either have never driven any other electric car or they have joined the cult of Elon. Or both. You have options today. Use them.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

Anonymous wrote:Polestar is a Chinese company. In case anyone feels strongly about US competitiveness.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

LOL, tesla are way nicer and have better tech than corollas and are much fast, troll harder

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Anonymous wrote:I test drove a few EVs and went with a Chevy. I absolutely hate the giant screen that Teslas have, I think it's much less safe than buttons you can feel to change things in the car.

all cars are moving towards the large screen and no buttons, it makes more sense and if you are under 40 you really want to have a touchscreen/phone like experience. Wanting buttons is like complaining about missing hore manure when we moved from horses to cars.

Anonymous wrote:I test drove a few EVs and went with a Chevy. I absolutely hate the giant screen that Teslas have, I think it's much less safe than buttons you can feel to change things in the car.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

Anonymous wrote:Unless they crush the Tesla's being traded in how does this hurt Tesla?

Just new owners.

The Cadillac Lyrik my cousin just bought the 2025 model is a way better car and American. Mary Barra is friends with the Biden and the Obamas if that matters.