Anonymous wrote:We have been in GA for a few seasons. There are some decent teams, but I would say half or a little over are pretty weak. When teams are winning 6-0 or 10-0 then there is a problem. How is the coaching in ecnl? The team we are with has a lot of father coaches, that are just D certified. Ga preaches a good game, but doesn’t follow their own rules. They preach how it’s about the girls having a voice. At our club only a couple girls are a loud to say anything, and they are the coaches kids or kids who’s parents are friends of the coaches. These kids also get to play the full 80 min while others are lucky to get 15 min. The GA also preaches mental health. We have had girls leave this season because of mental health created by our coach, and others are leaving at end of the season. To our club they want to win at all cost, it’s not about the girls at all, it’s about our directors ego. So how are the Ecnl teams? Do they worry about all the girls or a select few? Do they care about developing or just winning? I truly want to know the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:The ECNL hats are mad today posting their insecurities with a furry. I'll answer the questions you're really asking.

Yes, GA is growing

Yes, girls ECNL is in trouble

Yes, boys clubs want MLSN over boys ECNL

Furry?

It stinks not to be able to correct typos. The pryce of an anonymous forum.

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Anonymous wrote:The ECNL hats are mad today posting their insecurities with a furry. I'll answer the questions you're really asking.

Yes, GA is growing

Yes, girls ECNL is in trouble

Yes, boys clubs want MLSN over boys ECNL

Furry?

It stinks not to be able to correct typos. The pryce of an anonymous forum.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL hats are mad today posting their insecurities with a furry. I'll answer the questions you're really asking.

Yes, GA is growing

Yes, girls ECNL is in trouble

Yes, boys clubs want MLSN over boys ECNL

Furry?

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL hats are mad today posting their insecurities with a furry. I'll answer the questions you're really asking.

Yes, GA is growing

Yes, girls ECNL is in trouble

Yes, boys clubs want MLSN over boys ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:How is a partnership with MLS hurting the girls? MLS owns the national federation. That means GA has backing from the US Federation and will be given preferential treatment over ECNL. Not involved at all with girls soccer but its incredibly clear that GA is the future if you understand how soccer works in the US at all levels.

There is zero benefit from an alliance with MLS for the girls. None. Who cares who owns the federation? GA has no backing from it; no dollars; no support. There is no way the federation can give any special treatment over ECNL because there is none to give.

I agree college coaches go where the talent is. The talent is 75% in ECNL. If they moved to GA -- sure. But there is zero reason to think they will. GA's recruiting for the 2006s was not bad. For the 2007s it was awful and worse for the 2008s. ECNL gets their girls recruited from 1-18 on the team. What has become apparent is that GA can get 1-5 recruited but that is all. GA's marketing has also been inferior. College coaches would rather go to the ECNL events. But I suppose that could be fixed.

In short, the GA agreement with MLS was a Hail Mary before they are relegated to a true second tier league. We will see shortly if it worked. I doubt it will.

Anonymous wrote:We have been in GA for a few seasons. There are some decent teams, but I would say half or a little over are pretty weak. When teams are winning 6-0 or 10-0 then there is a problem. How is the coaching in ecnl? The team we are with has a lot of father coaches, that are just D certified. Ga preaches a good game, but doesn’t follow their own rules. They preach how it’s about the girls having a voice. At our club only a couple girls are a loud to say anything, and they are the coaches kids or kids who’s parents are friends of the coaches. These kids also get to play the full 80 min while others are lucky to get 15 min. The GA also preaches mental health. We have had girls leave this season because of mental health created by our coach, and others are leaving at end of the season. To our club they want to win at all cost, it’s not about the girls at all, it’s about our directors ego. So how are the Ecnl teams? Do they worry about all the girls or a select few? Do they care about developing or just winning? I truly want to know the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:How is a partnership with MLS hurting the girls? MLS owns the national federation. That means GA has backing from the US Federation and will be given preferential treatment over ECNL. Not involved at all with girls soccer but its incredibly clear that GA is the future if you understand how soccer works in the US at all levels.

There is zero benefit from an alliance with MLS for the girls. None. Who cares who owns the federation? GA has no backing from it; no dollars; no support. There is no way the federation can give any special treatment over ECNL because there is none to give.

I agree college coaches go where the talent is. The talent is 75% in ECNL. If they moved to GA -- sure. But there is zero reason to think they will. GA's recruiting for the 2006s was not bad. For the 2007s it was awful and worse for the 2008s. ECNL gets their girls recruited from 1-18 on the team. What has become apparent is that GA can get 1-5 recruited but that is all. GA's marketing has also been inferior. College coaches would rather go to the ECNL events. But I suppose that could be fixed.

In short, the GA agreement with MLS was a Hail Mary before they are relegated to a true second tier league. We will see shortly if it worked. I doubt it will.

The top GA clubs get a lot more than 1-5 recruited. Sometimes it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond. See Tophat as example.

top GA clubs are the exception not the rule

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:How is a partnership with MLS hurting the girls? MLS owns the national federation. That means GA has backing from the US Federation and will be given preferential treatment over ECNL. Not involved at all with girls soccer but its incredibly clear that GA is the future if you understand how soccer works in the US at all levels.

There is zero benefit from an alliance with MLS for the girls. None. Who cares who owns the federation? GA has no backing from it; no dollars; no support. There is no way the federation can give any special treatment over ECNL because there is none to give.

I agree college coaches go where the talent is. The talent is 75% in ECNL. If they moved to GA -- sure. But there is zero reason to think they will. GA's recruiting for the 2006s was not bad. For the 2007s it was awful and worse for the 2008s. ECNL gets their girls recruited from 1-18 on the team. What has become apparent is that GA can get 1-5 recruited but that is all. GA's marketing has also been inferior. College coaches would rather go to the ECNL events. But I suppose that could be fixed.

In short, the GA agreement with MLS was a Hail Mary before they are relegated to a true second tier league. We will see shortly if it worked. I doubt it will.

The top GA clubs get a lot more than 1-5 recruited. Sometimes it’s better to be a big fish in a small pond. See Tophat as example.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is a partnership with MLS hurting the girls? MLS owns the national federation. That means GA has backing from the US Federation and will be given preferential treatment over ECNL. Not involved at all with girls soccer but its incredibly clear that GA is the future if you understand how soccer works in the US at all levels.

There is zero benefit from an alliance with MLS for the girls. None. Who cares who owns the federation? GA has no backing from it; no dollars; no support. There is no way the federation can give any special treatment over ECNL because there is none to give.

I agree college coaches go where the talent is. The talent is 75% in ECNL. If they moved to GA -- sure. But there is zero reason to think they will. GA's recruiting for the 2006s was not bad. For the 2007s it was awful and worse for the 2008s. ECNL gets their girls recruited from 1-18 on the team. What has become apparent is that GA can get 1-5 recruited but that is all. GA's marketing has also been inferior. College coaches would rather go to the ECNL events. But I suppose that could be fixed.

In short, the GA agreement with MLS was a Hail Mary before they are relegated to a true second tier league. We will see shortly if it worked. I doubt it will.

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Anonymous wrote:The difference is ECNL has about 3.5 times the commits to power 4 colleges compared to GA. So the exposure is way better for ECNL TODAY. The million dollar question is if we all believe GA is on the right track, how long will the transition take for the college coaches to see that the better talent is now in GA and not ECNL? My guess is 3-5 years. Which is why I agree with the pp above who said “for hs age girls you stay in ECNL.”

College coaches show up where the talent is regardless. This idea that they're just coming out to games to generally find unknown talent is ridiculous. We all have Veos and they could spot that out from the comfort of their own homes. They come to these ECNL events in force because of the money. Because ECNL put their marketing dollars to work and created league specific events. I love how everyone loves to just gloss over that fact. WAGS, NCFC, Jeff Cup, Disney showcase and many more were where coaches showed up to watch players. There was no such thing as ECNL North Carolina, SC, St. Louis, etc.. "national events" (that you're required to participate in as a member) until 2022 or 23. In that short of a span you all have been brainwashed into believing that since those four letters are on it that it just has to be the best while completely ignoring that they simply match you up with a team from another conference with a similar strength as yours to keep the games close and give the illusion of it being competitive. If your kid is on the bottom half (talent wise) of a team that's not even top 4 in your conference, what are you barking about anyway? And if your team is top 4 of the conference but bottom half of their age group in the ECNL, you're in the same boat. Go look at the combined records of the bottom 6 teams in the mid Atlantic for any given age group. Until you get to the oldest age groups, the bottom half is awful.

I would like to hear back from you after your daughter completes her recruiting process. You clearly have no clue how any of this works. Good effort though.

Guess it's a good thing I've been around the process before ECNL had the footprint in this area and during the current cycle. Being uninformed and overly reliant on the club/league is what has made most of you parents lazy in the process when you could've avoided that stress. You're fed that false sense of security of the league and negate doing the basic legwork that you need to do. Next thing you know you're at the same 75-250 ranked school that an RL kid made it to from expressing early interest and showing up to camps...

Your ignorance is showing.

Maybe. Or maybe you've gone too far in your wallet to justify entertaining that there are alternative paths to the same goal. Imagine saving that extra 12k a year in travel you spent on nationals and the other showcases for at least 4yrs (6 for some of you) and putting that 48k toward your DD's partially funded scholarship. You all continue to prove how much of a social status this is for adults vs producing a quality future for your kids actually playing the game.