OP maybe you should look into running on a treadmill if you have such issues.

You are a runner. Run around them. I am sure you are perfectly capable.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry man, this is a you thing. You do not get right of way because you're faster. If you are running on a trail or sidewalk or something, and you come up on someone moving slowly, walking a dog, taking up the whole sidewalk, and you can't get around them, then YOU need to slow down or fully stop and wait for them to proceed. They have just as much of a right to the sidewalk as you do and the solution is right there in front of you: Stop or slow down. It's not like they're blocking the whole trail taking a nap for 30 mins. Stop, say excuse me, and get around them as you're able. Then you can keep running. If your workout is too precious for that, then go run on a track somewhere.

So it’s ok for a pedestrian to take up the whole sidewalk? Other pedestrians have to slow down or stop so the slower pedestrian doesn’t have to move to one side of the sidewalk? Do slower people have the right to the whole sidewalk? Why?

I walk for exercise. If I come up behind someone walking slower, yes I have to slow down until it's possible to pass. How is this a real question?

You can ask them to move. You can be annoyed. But you still have to stop running. Just like if your car comes up on another car parked in the road, you have to stop and not just plow into them.

As another person who walks for exercise, I only partially agree. If I'm on a narrow sidewalk and I encounter someone who is going slow because they are elderly, disabled, or they have a small child, I have no problem slowing up and figuring out how to go around them. I think that's just good manners.

OP is talking about something else. They are talking about a person who is perfectly capable of sharing space on the sidewalk but is just being an oblivious idiot. It's not even dog specific. A few times on walks I've come across movers who have extended ramps across the sidewalk that are impossible to walk, so in order to get around you actually have to cross the street. This is very rude IMO, and if you do this you should have to put up warning signs, or find another way to load the truck that doesn't block the entire sidewalk. I've also encountered people who stretch car charging cords acrosee the sidewalk to there house and I hate that too. They actually sell materials that enable you to safely charge your car from the street (longer cords and these mats that go over them so that people can walk across them easily) so there's no excuse there. People who let their dogs on long leases and block the sidewalk when they could just shorten the leash and pay attention are being equally entitled and lazy. This is fundamentally different from slowing down to pass someone who simply cannot walk faster or may be blocking the sidewalk through no fault of their own.

Anonymous wrote:Long leashes need to be banned.

They technically are a lot of places. I know in DC the law states that your dog should be on a leash no more than 4 ft long. But it's not enforced and a lot of dog owners are either unaware of the law or just don't care.

Also so many dog owners use retractable leashes which are THE WORST and then use them in the worst possible way.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe you should do your recreational activities in a designated space rather than complain about other people using the sidewalk for it’s intended purpose? Why do runners and bikers think that public roads and walkways are their personal gym?

Or maybe you should move your damn dog to your yard

Not everyone has a yard and even if they do, failing to walk yourr dog is borderline abusive, not to mention a recipe for creating a bored dog who does nothing but bark all day and night in the yard.

Not having a yard is not an excuse for rude dogowner behavior. There are lots of ways to take your dog out for walks or to a park that are pro-social and respect other people's space. But they all involve properly leash training your dog and then paying attention when you are in public spaces. No one forced you to get a dog, and presumably you understood when you got the dog that they need exercise. If you don't have a yard, you need to take responsibility for figuring out how to get your dog exercise in a way that doesn't make it dangerous or deeply unpleasant to be on public sidewalks or in public parks.

Take responsibility for your own decisions.

Long leashes need to be banned.

Anonymous wrote:Dogs should be on a short leash. Period.

+1 and I'm not a runner. I use the sidewalk for walking to work and running errands. A lot of people are space cadets, have their dogs on long leads, and let them wander all over the place. It's really irritating and I'm not even going that fast. Public sidewalks are shared spaces and you need to exercise awareness of that and keep your dog out of the way of people passing by, and especially be aware of not letting leashes stretch across the sidewalk where they can trip or injure people.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe you should do your recreational activities in a designated space rather than complain about other people using the sidewalk for it’s intended purpose? Why do runners and bikers think that public roads and walkways are their personal gym?

Or maybe you should move your damn dog to your yard

Not everyone has a yard and even if they do, failing to walk yourr dog is borderline abusive, not to mention a recipe for creating a bored dog who does nothing but bark all day and night in the yard.

Cool, keep your dog on a tight leash and/or pay attention to other people using public sidewalks and trails. They are for everyone, not you and your dog's time to listen to podcasts and loud music.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe you should do your recreational activities in a designated space rather than complain about other people using the sidewalk for it’s intended purpose? Why do runners and bikers think that public roads and walkways are their personal gym?

Or maybe you should move your damn dog to your yard

Not everyone has a yard and even if they do, failing to walk yourr dog is borderline abusive, not to mention a recipe for creating a bored dog who does nothing but bark all day and night in the yard.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe you should do your recreational activities in a designated space rather than complain about other people using the sidewalk for it’s intended purpose? Why do runners and bikers think that public roads and walkways are their personal gym?

Or maybe you should move your damn dog to your yard

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry man, this is a you thing. You do not get right of way because you're faster. If you are running on a trail or sidewalk or something, and you come up on someone moving slowly, walking a dog, taking up the whole sidewalk, and you can't get around them, then YOU need to slow down or fully stop and wait for them to proceed. They have just as much of a right to the sidewalk as you do and the solution is right there in front of you: Stop or slow down. It's not like they're blocking the whole trail taking a nap for 30 mins. Stop, say excuse me, and get around them as you're able. Then you can keep running. If your workout is too precious for that, then go run on a track somewhere.

So it’s ok for a pedestrian to take up the whole sidewalk? Other pedestrians have to slow down or stop so the slower pedestrian doesn’t have to move to one side of the sidewalk? Do slower people have the right to the whole sidewalk? Why?

I walk for exercise. If I come up behind someone walking slower, yes I have to slow down until it's possible to pass. How is this a real question?

You can ask them to move. You can be annoyed. But you still have to stop running. Just like if your car comes up on another car parked in the road, you have to stop and not just plow into them.

Dumbest analogy ever. If you come across a car that is taking up two lanes, you honk, like how passing pedestrians/runners announce "on your left!". You ask them to move over so you can pass. If you saw they were parked on a road and sitting on their phone with their headphones in (distracted like in the example from OP), you'd probably curse at them.

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Anonymous wrote:So many dog owners are so selfish, entitled, and clueless.

Yes, and so are many other categories of people.

One might include trolls in that list...

But dog nutters seem to have a particular entitlement/expectation that everyone be charmed by their animal that is truly mind boggling. And it's sooooo many dog owners.

Anonymous wrote:So many dog owners are so selfish, entitled, and clueless.

Yes, and so are many other categories of people.

One might include trolls in that list...

So many dog owners are so selfish, entitled, and clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry man, this is a you thing. You do not get right of way because you're faster. If you are running on a trail or sidewalk or something, and you come up on someone moving slowly, walking a dog, taking up the whole sidewalk, and you can't get around them, then YOU need to slow down or fully stop and wait for them to proceed. They have just as much of a right to the sidewalk as you do and the solution is right there in front of you: Stop or slow down. It's not like they're blocking the whole trail taking a nap for 30 mins. Stop, say excuse me, and get around them as you're able. Then you can keep running. If your workout is too precious for that, then go run on a track somewhere.

So it’s ok for a pedestrian to take up the whole sidewalk? Other pedestrians have to slow down or stop so the slower pedestrian doesn’t have to move to one side of the sidewalk? Do slower people have the right to the whole sidewalk? Why?

I walk for exercise. If I come up behind someone walking slower, yes I have to slow down until it's possible to pass. How is this a real question?

You can ask them to move. You can be annoyed. But you still have to stop running. Just like if your car comes up on another car parked in the road, you have to stop and not just plow into them.