Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 15:29     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


I hope you're not serious, but if you are, guess what - refusing to call something a name is SPEECH and not behavior. And speech is what is protected by the 1st Amendment.

If the President declared the sky was green, and no one could say otherwise, and news outlets who refused to say the sky was green could not be admitted to the White House - would that clear things up for you?


is the sky legally green? Rather incongruous comparison. Gulf of America is the LEGAL name. Refusing to use the legal name when asking the President questions is a breach of decorum for which the White House can suspend a press pass. Would freedom of speech protect a reporter from suspension if s/he was disrespectful to the President by yelling out or interrupting him?


"Gulf of America" is not a "legal name". It's just Trump's preferred pronoun.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:34     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh look! The Associated Press thinks it has rights it doesn't.


Did you wander in from Belarus?


He’s just a peaceful tourist.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:34     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


They are a wire service. They have a right to be there, and any savvy press secretary would want wire services like AP and Reuters to be there to get their messaging out.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:32     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:Hilarious that you think the Associated Press has a right to be in the White House.

They seem to think they are the only news agency that can do their job. Serious narcissism there.


They are a wire service that many news organizations that don't have a person in Washington rely on for coverage. If you had any real understanding of journalism, you would know that. Their absence at events hurts news organizations and readers around the world.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:30     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
What law firm is representing AP? not Paul Weiss, obviously…
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:29     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:Hey I have a blog and I want a White House press pass, too. Guess I can sue, too!


Are you a respected news organization in publication since 1846? Do you publish style books that have been used by news organizations for over a century? No. So sit down and shut up.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:19     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


The line between speech and behavior (and speech that can be reasonably restrained by time, place & manner) is the heart of 1st Amendment jurisprudence. Obviously, conditioning press freedom on never saying anything that makes the President mad would be an … interesting take …
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:17     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:Oh look! The Associated Press thinks it has rights it doesn't.


Did you wander in from Belarus?
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:14     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Oh look! The Associated Press thinks it has rights it doesn't.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2025 12:03     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 21:04     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Hilarious that you think the Associated Press has a right to be in the White House.

They seem to think they are the only news agency that can do their job. Serious narcissism there.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 20:56     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


I kind of love it because it exposes him for what the tiny little man he is.

Also, he will lose the case.

Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 20:53     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Green card holders and legal visa holders are being stormed and 'disappeared" but government operatives.

It IS happening here, right now.
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 20:46     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
“The Ass. Press and all people in the United States have the right to choose their own words and not be retaliated against by the government,”
Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 20:24     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/07/us/trump-federal-agencies-websites-words-dei.html

The list of words being banning from our government is stunning. Click the link to see how many words Trump and Musk have canceled.