Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:26
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
You are joking right? Working people not at peace. Rich maybe but not working. people.
Working people take the bus, train and subway and particularly for people who bus in from the suburbs, it has cut commuting time by more than half. They are thrilled.
That makes no sense.
They previously preferred to drive into at 2x the time duration and pay for parking monthly over much shorter in time public transport option?
Usually it’s the opposite: 90 minutes of changing trains, subways and busses versus 45 min drive in traffic.
Most of the coverage I have seen supports what I wrote and contradicts what you wrote.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:25
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Sorry I missed it, what has happened to the relatively new Congestion Taxes in NYC?
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:23
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Look you can agree or disagree with him (personally disagree as most people commute via plentiful train services from the burbs; I grew up in a NYC suburb). However, from a GOP perspective, shouldn't tolls be left as a state issue without federal tampering? This just looks like petty overreach.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/19/nyregion/trump-congestion-pricing-nyc.html?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20250219&instance_id=147935&nl=from-the-times®i_id=64963071&segment_id=191410&user_id=90d3e0bd760b3d1fe08b44f9adde894c
Yes. It is none of trump and musk concern/business. Federal govt. Should not be sticking it's corrupt hands in a sovereign state's business .
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:23
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
You are joking right? Working people not at peace. Rich maybe but not working. people.
Working people take the bus, train and subway and particularly for people who bus in from the suburbs, it has cut commuting time by more than half. They are thrilled.
That makes no sense.
They previously preferred to drive into at 2x the time duration and pay for parking monthly over much shorter in time public transport option?
Usually it’s the opposite: 90 minutes of changing trains, subways and busses versus 45 min drive in traffic.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:20
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Argue the benefits or drawbacks of congestion pricing--but trump has NO say in what the locals do.
Why is even he intervening?
because he thinks he is a king and no one on his staff has told him otherwise
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:18
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congestion pricing has been great. On the rare time I need to drive to downtown Manhattan it used to take me about 1.5hrs, I’ve done it twice since and it only took 30min!
It was a pleasure to spend the $9! I was surprised so little would make such a difference. And a friend of mine that lives in the zone is happy as well, quality of life is up with less cars on the street.
Spoken like someone who does not appreciate that 9 dollars daily is a lot to many people
If you are driving in, by yourself, for a white collar job in the congestion zone, $9/day is nothing.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:17
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Argue the benefits or drawbacks of congestion pricing--but trump has NO say in what the locals do.
Why is even he intervening?
Negative attention seeking revengeful toddler strikes again.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:16
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Argue the benefits or drawbacks of congestion pricing--but trump has NO say in what the locals do.
Why is even he intervening?
Why is even he intervening?
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:16
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
Between the long $$$$$ cab and uber rides due to lack of driving lanes, the cannabis stench everywhere, increased crime, doubled taxes and surcharges on everything… why would you choose to visit NYC for work trips or leisure?
Clearly you do not live in NYC because none of what you are claiming is reality.
If you live in Manhattan why would you care how much it costs to drive into or out of the five boroughs? Unless of course the high congestion fees were negatively affecting your nyc business or foot traffic.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:16
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
You are joking right? Working people not at peace. Rich maybe but not working. people.
Working people take the bus, train and subway and particularly for people who bus in from the suburbs, it has cut commuting time by more than half. They are thrilled.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:15
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
You are joking right? Working people not at peace. Rich maybe but not working. people.
What working people? The ones who are commuting in from the outer burbs in their cars by themselves? Because it’s not the tradespeople passing it on or the delivery guys who are getting their routes done more quickly and cheaply.
Yeah, I don’t think New Yorkers care about the hardships of the B&T crowd. You want to use their roads, contribute some.
Surely the nighttime delivery people are not hit with daily congestion fees?
It’s mainly for targeting the tourists’ taxis, business travelers’ taxis, and rich people expenses black cars going back and forth.
The peak time is 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.. outside of that it is 75% less.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:15
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Congestion pricing has been great. On the rare time I need to drive to downtown Manhattan it used to take me about 1.5hrs, I’ve done it twice since and it only took 30min!
It was a pleasure to spend the $9! I was surprised so little would make such a difference. And a friend of mine that lives in the zone is happy as well, quality of life is up with less cars on the street.
Spoken like someone who does not appreciate that 9 dollars daily is a lot to many people
She’s some SAHM who drove in to the city at like 11am for a lunch and left after shopping but before peak rush at 4pm+. Easy peasy.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:13
Subject: Re:Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another loss on the way for Trump. New Yorkers seem to have come around on the tolls and are enjoying the peace. The sad, scared suburban B&T crowd seems to be having a hard time with it, though. God forbid they have to mingle amongst the people on public transit!
You are joking right? Working people not at peace. Rich maybe but not working. people.
What working people? The ones who are commuting in from the outer burbs in their cars by themselves? Because it’s not the tradespeople passing it on or the delivery guys who are getting their routes done more quickly and cheaply.
Yeah, I don’t think New Yorkers care about the hardships of the B&T crowd. You want to use their roads, contribute some.
Surely the nighttime delivery people are not hit with daily congestion fees?
It’s mainly for targeting the tourists’ taxis, business travelers’ taxis, and rich people expenses black cars going back and forth.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:10
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The trades folks that drive their vans in everyday actually really liked the congestion charge because it made it MUCH easier to find street parking and reduced their drive time by a lot. The toll itself gets charged to the client, so it was no skin off their back.
Exactly, just another expensed expense to the end consumer. And reason why businesses and family’s leave New York.
Exactly, NYC is known for its lack of business and empty streets. Now name me a US city with more businesses or families?
It’s too expensive nobody wants to live there, all the demand is in rural Arkansas where driving is free…lol
So weird that the only places you know in the whole country are nyc and Arkansas or Alabama.
Anonymous
02/19/2025 15:09
Subject: Trump dictator-ing NYC congestion pricing
