Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 19:50     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?



The people who should stop him at scared of Trump and maybe of the Russians who make their opponents fall out of windows.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 19:47     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Remember how Republicans always scream "We live in a Republic, not a Democracy!" This is what they mean: people in government can ignore the law.


Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 19:43     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?







Stop lying. Musk is a financier, not a programmer.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:34     Subject: Re:DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:DOGE employees are federal employees with security clearances. Hopefully you understand what that means. In short, it means they passed security clearance checks.


Which ones? Which clearances? How do you know?

https://projects.propublica.org/elon-musk-doge-tracker/

Would. You trust these people to even pick up your mail while you were out of town?
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:28     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:Biden hied 87000 new irs agents to do audits no one complained. You people are nuts


1) he didn't hire 87,000 new people. The congress authorized the hiring and replacement of IRS employment levels to standards from decades ago. The result of the people who were hired was the recapture of billions of dollars from tax cheats. Do you think people should get away with being a tax cheat? If not, without a properly staffed IRS, how do you conduct reviews and enforcement?

2)And audit is a technical term and a real process. What DOGE is doing are not actual audits. The word is being bastardized so people like you conflate the legitimate actions of the IRS and what DOGE is doing.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:24     Subject: Re:DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:DOGE employees are federal employees with security clearances. Hopefully you understand what that means. In short, it means they passed security clearance checks.


No, they are deputized civilians who bypassed the clearance process because Musk asked Trump to just install them. They absolutely do not have proper clearances.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:23     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?


They are government workers, and based on results, they are very qualified.
$106 billion saved so far.


there hasn't been a penny saved so far...where on earth did you get that nonsense?

And in fact, when you understand the multiplier of federal dollars for research (NIH research cuts) and you consider the time lost when people are sick because of cuts in the CDC, the US GDP will be falling because of these actions.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:19     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:Okay, let's break it down like you're five:

Imagine you have a big toy box, and you're the only one who should open it because you know where all your toys go. But then, someone new comes along, saying they're from a special club called DOGE, and they want to look through your toy box to make sure everything is okay. Even though they don't really work in your house, the grown-ups in charge decide to let them in.

First Agency: They let DOGE in because they thought maybe this special club could help make their toy box (which is like an office) better or cleaner. They didn't know better because it was the first time they saw DOGE.

The IRS's Turn: Now, the IRS is like another big toy box but with everyone's secret toy information in it. Even though they saw what happened with other places, they might have thought:

They Were Told To: Sometimes, when the big boss (like the President or someone high up) tells you to do something, you have to listen, even if you don't want to. They might have been told to let DOGE check their toys, even if it seems strange.
Hoping for Good: Maybe they thought DOGE could find a way to make sure no one is hiding toys or not sharing properly, even if they know DOGE isn't perfect or nice to everyone.
Rules and Promises: DOGE probably promised not to mess up or look at things they shouldn't, kind of like when you make a pinky promise. But, just like a pinky promise, sometimes people don't keep their word.

Why Let Them In? The big reason is that sometimes, even if you don't want someone in your space, if they're sent by the person in charge, you have to let them in. It's like when your mom says your cousin can play with your toys even if you don't like them.

And even though DOGE isn't a real part of the government, they're allowed in because they're working with the people at the very top, who can make these big decisions. It's not about being qualified; it's more about following the orders from the highest authority.

Remember, this is very grown-up stuff, and sometimes the reasons adults do things might seem confusing or unfair, just like when you have to share your toys with someone you don't like.


One doesn't do an audit by letting a bunch of untrained "tech whizzes" into the mechanics of federal systems. I mean, there are highly paid big consulting firms with millions of dollars contracts who are doing actual audits and developing new software systems for government agencies.

What DOGE is doing is running in and capturing data on every American taxpayer and user of the federal systems. That isn't an audit, that isn't 'streamlining" anything and it undercuts any sort of process to federal work.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:17     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Biden hied 87000 new irs agents to do audits no one complained. You people are nuts
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:16     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:DOGE works for The President of the United States of America, you know, the person who WON the last election.

Why aren’t you finding anyone who can win NEXT time?


That doesn't give the right to let a bunch of 20 year old un-cleared hackers into government systems and the personal information of every American.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:15     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
To be clear, DOGE is a real part of the government.

Obama created the US Digital Service as a sort of internal consultant to improve tech use and efficiency in the executive branch. One of Trump’s first executive orders was to rebrand the US Digital Service as DOGE and expands its mission scope.

Thus, that’s why they are being let in.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:07     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?


They are government workers, and based on results, they are very qualified.
$106 billion saved so far.


Where is the saved money now?[/quote



Elons pocket via grants.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:07     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:DOGE works for The President of the United States of America, you know, the person who WON the last election.

Why aren’t you finding anyone who can win NEXT time?


So what? Just because he won doesn’t mean he or his appointed cronies can act without impunity. They are all still subject to laws, and our information is also protected by laws. Do you have no concern with what will be done with your personal information? Isn’t that one of the hallmarks of MAGA, anti big brother? But you are willing to allow a nobody, and he really is a nobody, he’s just a bully with a lot of money, access to yours and everyone else’s highly sensitive data without any reason? I get no benefits from the federal government, none, I’m not employed by them either. He doesn’t have any right to my information or anyone else’s in my family.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:06     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?


They are government workers, and based on results, they are very qualified.
$106 billion saved so far.


But to what end?


They have disrupted too much and sending people into offices with no ready infrastructure to do their jobs…zero transition. Work is being lost not made more efficient if they were left to continue at home until things were in place. Now add in off e rent etc
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2025 15:05     Subject: DOGE access--Please explain to me like I'm five...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can understand the first agency they visited not knowing better and allowing DOGE inside.

But, why would the IRS let the racist Jewish-hating programmer inside and give them access to the tax info for everyone in the United States of America? Especially after seeing how they gutted other agencies?

Please tell me why everyone has to let DOGE into their offices when they are not real government workers and are unqualified....?


They are government workers, and based on results, they are very qualified.
$106 billion saved so far.


Where is the saved money now?[/quote