Several podcasts discuss “strategic positioning”.

Search apple?

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford explicitly allows anyone to come there and major in CS. Talk to students. Read on unigo.

The school knows what kids are doing. It’s not a secret.

https://stanforddaily.com/2024/03/03/the-most-enrolled-2024-winter-quarter-courses/

Clearly you are not getting the point. Of course they know, but only looking into the black box of admissions reveals the extent of their ongoing actions to curtail it.

Maybe they don’t want to curtail it. It’s working out for them.

Anonymous wrote:Stanford explicitly allows anyone to come there and major in CS. Talk to students. Read on unigo.

The school knows what kids are doing. It’s not a secret.

https://stanforddaily.com/2024/03/03/the-most-enrolled-2024-winter-quarter-courses/

Clearly you are not getting the point. Of course they know, but only looking into the black box of admissions reveals the extent of their ongoing actions to curtail it.

Anonymous wrote:it's sad so many of you send the message to your kids they can't get into these schools on their own merit, you need to move to the middle of nowhere, fake their majors, fake their interests, cultivate their ECs based not on what they like but what you think will help. So these schools really don't want them, the real them, they want this fake cultivated version of them, because they just aren't good enough.

It's actually not sad, it's pathetic.

Wake up. No kid gets into any of these schools “on their own merit.” Even those kids you think got in on their “own merit,” by not “gaming,” had innumerable privileges enabling to be who they are — privileges that in many cases were far more meaningful than the measures you sanctimoniously decry.

Stanford explicitly allows anyone to come there and major in CS. Talk to students. Read on unigo.

The school knows what kids are doing. It’s not a secret.

https://stanforddaily.com/2024/03/03/the-most-enrolled-2024-winter-quarter-courses/

Anonymous wrote:^^ why do you care so much?
Stanford likes that all their humanities kids are CS double majors. It’s their “thing”…

Not if they did not declare a CS major in the first place. As explained above, there is no real resource difference between a double major in CS and something undersubscribed, and a straight CS major. Also, Stanford knows it is more and more being perceived as an MIT with supplementary “enrichment” classes. If it truly wants to be known as the best college in America (I think it is still tied with Harvard for this honor, US News aside), it needs to stymie this festering wound.

Anonymous wrote:it's sad so many of you send the message to your kids they can't get into these schools on their own merit, you need to move to the middle of nowhere, fake their majors, fake their interests, cultivate their ECs based not on what they like but what you think will help. So these schools really don't want them, the real them, they want this fake cultivated version of them, because they just aren't good enough.

It's actually not sad, it's pathetic.

Hate the game.
Not the player.

it's sad so many of you send the message to your kids they can't get into these schools on their own merit, you need to move to the middle of nowhere, fake their majors, fake their interests, cultivate their ECs based not on what they like but what you think will help. So these schools really don't want them, the real them, they want this fake cultivated version of them, because they just aren't good enough.

It's actually not sad, it's pathetic.

^^ why do you care so much?
Stanford likes that all their humanities kids are CS double majors. It’s their “thing”…

Anonymous wrote:I know a family whose kid similarly applied to Stanford for an undersubscribed major -- with a sincere interest in that subject, but no intention of majoring in it. Kid graduated from Stanford with a CS degree and is now at a big tech firm.

FWIW, my child did not do this. They felt like it would be fake at best and lying at worst. They are a senior now and have several good schools to choose between (not Stanford or equivalent, though), with more to hear from in RD.

You would think Stanford would be wise enough to do some internal research on this. How difficult would it be? Some work study computer kid could do it, with access to high school transcripts. First cut would be looking at kids, longitudinally, who had intended under-subscribed majors, then looking at their high school transcript (AI can do this), and coding for AP Computer Science and/or 5 years of science (meaning an extra science was chosen as an elective) and/or multivariate calculus and/or AP Macro/Micro. Then, obviously, comparing this to what the kids actually ended up majoring in. That first-level analysis alone might well “out” most of the switcheroos. Then you can get down into the data, isolate/combine variables, come up with new variables etc.

None, if my kid can't get into his desired major at whatever school then that school isn't for us, I'm not going to put him in a position to try to transfer in. The gamesmanship these people go through for bragging rights, you really have problems. Let your kid be a kid and stop trying to work the system.

What year does the schools college counselor start with these talks?

Junior year?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone at our private does this. CCO advises.

This is very common at our private. The CCO helps with this extensively.

Same

W schools do this too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone at our private does this. CCO advises.

This is very common at our private. The CCO helps with this extensively.

Same

Anonymous wrote:Everyone at our private does this. CCO advises.

This is very common at our private. The CCO helps with this extensively.