Anonymous wrote:Who the heck cares? What a dumb thing to be focused on right now

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Sounds like you don't know youth club travel soccer (which includes extra strength training, futsal, 3x a week practices and 10-month seasons -- all in elementary school AND that doesn't include all the camps, Super Y, ODP, etc OR the mental performance training/mentors).

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

Got any studies to back that up? Not soccer specific but pro's in other sports are more likely to have been multi-sport athletes rather than a single sport earlier on. There might be something to that or not you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

We in modern day snowflake society overuse these terms to pamper kids

Most these kids aren't putting in half enough work regularly to truly experience burnout or overuse injuries
Most injuries are poor preparation injuries

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Anonymous wrote:This is accurate. Many of the kids now on my kids age group top teams at U15 were really the best ones at age 7. The ones who scored 10 goals a game just running down the field. Couple that with sports-aware or linked parents and a competitive spirit and bingo.
Some say kids grow into greatness but in this era of trainers, I don’t think that’s true. I have seen 5 year olds with private trainers who have insane skills already. It would be hard to catch up and surpass these kids.

You are only seeing the successes. Many others burn out, get injured and either switch sports or give it up entirely.

Isn't the question about the successes?

I think the point is more about the failures of this pathway to success and to perhaps consider that.

Why consider the failures?
Focus on what it takes for success.

Because burn out and over use injuries are real.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saying what I have seen!

Just remember past performance doesn't guarantee future results!

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Anonymous wrote:Always try to play at the highest levels you can get to. If you're playing at a low level at younger ages, it will be hard to match the speed of play at the higher levels because it is just something your not used to. Can a player play high school football and still be a pro? Maybe. A broken clock is right twice a day. But it is much less likely. We are talking about the best chances of success.

It’s tough to know how to attribute success. Are the successful ones successful because they followed this blueprint? Or were they likely to be successful no matter which path they took because they had what it takes. Hard to say.

It’s similar to how graduates from top colleges have higher paying jobs. Is it because they went to that college, or is it because that college filters for the types of kids who would perform well no matter where they went to college.

The kids that start with private training, play high level early, and follow the “blueprint” is a filtering system for the types of players who were already likely to succeed. I don’t think it makes them succeed.

It's sports.
No one is likely to succeed to top levels without the required work and sacrifice

Exactly. And identifying who has those attributes is very difficult to predict at young ages. Really until later teen years.

Makes no sense

Late in teen years to sacrifice and put in consistent hard work is too late.
Unless you're not talking about going professional.

Not saying sacrifice and hard work don’t need to start until teen years. I’m saying just because a kid is working hard and loving soccer at 10 years old doesn’t mean they will at 17. It’s a different kind of work at 17, more like a job at that point. Nutrition, fitness, mindset, injuries, so many things that aren’t about soccer that are required at 17 that weren’t there at 10. Predicting which 10 year olds will be willing to do the those things at 17 is difficult.

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. You can’t exactly be “just talented” and the rest will follow. You need extra training, classes, private coaching…all that requires money. I don’t believe anyone can be discovered like Ronaldo for example. In this time and day, you need money for everything

Anonymous wrote:Just saying what I have seen!