Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:56
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Some will take it.
You definitely are overlooking that fed offices are filled with mid level young parents who are looking at summer break and eyeing this offer as a rare opportunity to take a paid summer vacay with their kids, not shell out money for daycare, and then spend most of August interviewing for jobs in private sector.
There are also plenty of young GenZers who wouldn’t mind taking a paycheck to stay home for a few months or travel or even immediately get a new job and take double salary until September. And getting new job will be easy if they choose a super liberal company and just blame their departure on “yeah I had to get out of that Trump sh!$show…”
This is a terrible move by Elon/Trump but I don’t think it will land as flat as people think.
There will be some takers. 5-7%
Except it’s not a “paid summer vacay.” it literally by its terms is “deferred resignation.” You *still have to work* the whole time. It has zero benefits.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:55
Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.
-A fed.
I read they were aiming for 5-10% with this, I think that is feasible.
A friend is a legal recruiter, she is getting a lot of calls from feds.
no halfway intelligent lawyer is taking this “offer.” It offers literally nothing except being able to avoid RTO for a few months.
No, you get to do nothing and get paid until September stop spreading lies
lol who is spreading lies? Please cite the language in any agreement that says “you get to do nothing.”
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:51
Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.
-A fed.
I read they were aiming for 5-10% with this, I think that is feasible.
A friend is a legal recruiter, she is getting a lot of calls from feds.
no halfway intelligent lawyer is taking this “offer.” It offers literally nothing except being able to avoid RTO for a few months.
No, you get to do nothing and get paid until September stop spreading lies
Interesting program that you can see in the private sector. It would take over a year to correctly build a program like this in the government. If Trump had half a brain that is what they would do and set this for next year. This will require new regulations and answers to all questions raised here. Also needs to be funded by Congress. And collectively bargained for those with union coverage. This is a program that could go in 2026. In 2025 it is just nonsense. I would be surprised if this even gets off the ground. My prediction is that peopel are interested but that not a single person will get this.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:51
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Some will take it.
You definitely are overlooking that fed offices are filled with mid level young parents who are looking at summer break and eyeing this offer as a rare opportunity to take a paid summer vacay with their kids, not shell out money for daycare, and then spend most of August interviewing for jobs in private sector.
There are also plenty of young GenZers who wouldn’t mind taking a paycheck to stay home for a few months or travel or even immediately get a new job and take double salary until September. And getting new job will be easy if they choose a super liberal company and just blame their departure on “yeah I had to get out of that Trump sh!$show…”
This is a terrible move by Elon/Trump but I don’t think it will land as flat as people think.
There will be some takers. 5-7%
I’m a mid level young parent who took an oath to swear to support and defend the constitution. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks taking the deferred resignation is an opportunity to get double-paid or take a vacation while on admin leave (under what authority??). Most of us have brains, thankfully…
https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1icj3wc/this_non_buyout_really_seems_to_have_backfired/
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:50
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
There is no guarantee that your agency will let you sit around on admin leave doing no work til Sept (even the email/FAQs say that).
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:46
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.
What will happen?
1. Will never happen as lawsuits will stop it.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:25
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Some will take it.
You definitely are overlooking that fed offices are filled with mid level young parents who are looking at summer break and eyeing this offer as a rare opportunity to take a paid summer vacay with their kids, not shell out money for daycare, and then spend most of August interviewing for jobs in private sector.
There are also plenty of young GenZers who wouldn’t mind taking a paycheck to stay home for a few months or travel or even immediately get a new job and take double salary until September. And getting new job will be easy if they choose a super liberal company and just blame their departure on “yeah I had to get out of that Trump sh!$show…”
This is a terrible move by Elon/Trump but I don’t think it will land as flat as people think.
There will be some takers. 5-7%
You definitely are overlooking that fed offices are filled with mid level young parents who are looking at summer break and eyeing this offer as a rare opportunity to take a paid summer vacay with their kids, not shell out money for daycare, and then spend most of August interviewing for jobs in private sector.
There are also plenty of young GenZers who wouldn’t mind taking a paycheck to stay home for a few months or travel or even immediately get a new job and take double salary until September. And getting new job will be easy if they choose a super liberal company and just blame their departure on “yeah I had to get out of that Trump sh!$show…”
This is a terrible move by Elon/Trump but I don’t think it will land as flat as people think.
There will be some takers. 5-7%
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:15
Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only people taking this are people who were already planning to retire or leave. No way it’s going to even be 5%.
I wouldn’t take it even if I was planning to retire because it’s totally unclear how it impacts your SCD etc. About the only scenario I can see someone taking this is if they literally cannot RTO and were ordered to do so immediately. Despite all the lies, that’s not a big number of people - definitely not 5% of the entire federal workforce, lol. Even if I was in the category of not being physically able to RTO I probably would not take it because the actual agency process of terminating me would take longer and have due process. And of course, choosing to “resign” means you likely lose your legal right to bring a claim related to the RTO order.
This 100 percent. I would be surprised if even 1 percent of folks do this.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:12
Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.
-A fed.
I read they were aiming for 5-10% with this, I think that is feasible.
A friend is a legal recruiter, she is getting a lot of calls from feds.
no halfway intelligent lawyer is taking this “offer.” It offers literally nothing except being able to avoid RTO for a few months.
No, you get to do nothing and get paid until September stop spreading lies
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:10
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.
They won’t. The only people who might take it are those close to retirement anyway.
Maybe a few who don’t want to work in the chaotic shit storm that is coming
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:10
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
It's for young people or recent hires who don't meet the five year retirement rule.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:09
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:No one is taking the buyout.
exactly
Anonymous
01/29/2025 09:42
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anyone stupid enough to respond to that email is a good loss, but I don’t think that will be many people.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 09:41
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:It is always pending mgt approval.
My old company way back we did an exercise where we had 3,000 employees and sr. Mgt with HR and review of Performance reviews on a paper print out in a conference room "red circled" 10 percent of company. Meaning Dead wood, excess worker, over paid, bad performer.
Then we went back a second time and "double red circled" the worst of worse to get to bottom 5 percent.
We then did a program similar to this. Anyone doubled redcircled we accepted resignation instantly. Anyone one redcircle HR briefly took a look.
We off loaded around 5 percent of company. Pretty much open to all to apply.
The double red-circled people we then wrote up and fired one by one and they went out in a less dignified way.
We were a union shop so to fire people a real pain proving it. Better if dead wood took a deal
lol except the actual RIF or VERA deal is better than this one. try again!
Anonymous
01/29/2025 09:40
Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Can individual agencies fire people who chose to sit on our rolls and do nothing for 8 months?