Anonymous
01/31/2025 10:57
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
Improving? SOLs are worse, Ranking fell from 1st to 14th
False. TJ was #5 before moving to #14.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 09:44
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
Improving? SOLs are worse, Ranking fell from 1st to 14th
That was the class of 2025. Ad frankly the usnwr rankings are not that important.
I think that class had a lot of woefully underprepared kids. And a LOT of them wet back to their base schools
I think they are trying to do a better job of finding the better prepared kids but they could really use a test to help identify them.
I thik we are going to see a huge drop in SAT scores. But the class of 2028 seems better prepared tha the class of 2025 was.
If performance were better, it would be reflected in the rankings. A drop in rankings suggests the school is not doing a good job of selecting a capable class overall. Relying solely on a portion of advanced students cannot compensate for struggling students who were chosen to meet political objectives. A good mix of students is preferrred, but it’s crucial to select students who can handle the academic rigor.
Anonymous
01/31/2025 09:09
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
Improving? SOLs are worse, Ranking fell from 1st to 14th
That was the class of 2025. Ad frankly the usnwr rankings are not that important.
I think that class had a lot of woefully underprepared kids. And a LOT of them wet back to their base schools
I think they are trying to do a better job of finding the better prepared kids but they could really use a test to help identify them.
I thik we are going to see a huge drop in SAT scores. But the class of 2028 seems better prepared tha the class of 2025 was.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 15:03
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
Improving? SOLs are worse, Ranking fell from 1st to 14th
Anonymous
01/30/2025 15:01
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
I don't think that's it at all. Racist Never gave this crop of students a fair shake but it's starting to show that their judgments were completely off base.
What is their PSAT score?
Where did the regeneron semifinalists go to middle school?
Which of these kids were selected under the current system that would not have been selected under the previous system?
Anonymous
01/30/2025 14:59
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
Good point. They shouldn't admit 550 kids. They should take 100 serious high-performing students.
The other 450 kids provide the "enriched environment" and "peer effect" for those 100 kids.
They also fill up the bottom of the grading curve so that those 100 kids don't have to worry about grades and can focus on stuff like regneron.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 14:58
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:TJ has science labs and gives the students connections to labs for internships. That's exactly what is required to do Regeneron, and why no one cares about Regeneron. Regeneron is a contest who can write sciency words to bluff about their project. Work is judged on style, not substance. Professional scientists see the award-winning projects as silly.
It's just a cynical exploitation of teens for advertising purposes.
WTF are you talking about?
Every one of these kids can write their own ticket.
https://www.societyforscience.org/regeneron-sts/2025-finalists/
Anonymous
01/30/2025 09:58
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
I don't think that's it at all. Racist Never gave this crop of students a fair shake but it's starting to show that their judgments were completely off base.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 12:13
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Who cares about the rank of a high school, except moms of kids currently in high school?
Depends on student and family interests, whether they prefer the academically top ranked Langley, Oakton, McLean, .... or prefer the athletically top ranked Mt. Vernon, Justice, Edison. FCPS offers wide variety of schools, not all can be the same and they dont want to make them the same. And students at one school are not forcing the students at another school to change interests.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:31
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
Good point. They shouldn't admit 550 kids. They should take 100 serious high-performing students.
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:29
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Who cares about the rank of a high school, except moms of kids currently in high school?
Anonymous
01/29/2025 10:28
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
TJ has science labs and gives the students connections to labs for internships. That's exactly what is required to do Regeneron, and why no one cares about Regeneron. Regeneron is a contest who can write sciency words to bluff about their project. Work is judged on style, not substance. Professional scientists see the award-winning projects as silly.
It's just a cynical exploitation of teens for advertising purposes.
It's just a cynical exploitation of teens for advertising purposes.
Anonymous
01/27/2025 20:24
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
No, it does not reflect one class. There were SOL failures in 9th, 10th, and 11th grades in 2022-23. (Some 11th graders were admitted under the new, test-optional sophomore admissions policy.) Your last point is consistent with the data, however -- there were fewer SOL failures in 2023-24 (3 failed exams) vs 2022-23 (18 failed exams). That seems to suggest FCPS may have tightened TJ admissions policies following the emergence of SOL failures in 2021-22 and 2022-23. However, while fewer SOL exam failures will ultimately help TJ's rating, there will soon be additional downward pressure on the ranking once 12th grade AP scores are included for the first classes admitted under the admissions change; students who failed their SOLs as underclassmen, are likely to struggle with their AP exams as seniors as well. Thus, it will take a number of years for TJ's rank to recover fully.
I hope they are able to continue to succeed but I agree that eventually the lower student quality is going to reduce the metrics that people are going to use to rank schools. I am particularly concerned about where the SAT scores will go.
Anonymous
01/27/2025 17:06
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.
No, it does not reflect one class. There were SOL failures in 9th, 10th, and 11th grades in 2022-23. (Some 11th graders were admitted under the new, test-optional sophomore admissions policy.) Your last point is consistent with the data, however -- there were fewer SOL failures in 2023-24 (3 failed exams) vs 2022-23 (18 failed exams). That seems to suggest FCPS may have tightened TJ admissions policies following the emergence of SOL failures in 2021-22 and 2022-23. However, while fewer SOL exam failures will ultimately help TJ's rating, there will soon be additional downward pressure on the ranking once 12th grade AP scores are included for the first classes admitted under the admissions change; students who failed their SOLs as underclassmen, are likely to struggle with their AP exams as seniors as well. Thus, it will take a number of years for TJ's rank to recover fully.
Anonymous
01/27/2025 15:18
Subject: TJ's Maligned Class of 2025 Produces MORE Regeneron Top 300s and ANOTHER Finalist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ will soon be back at #1.Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-student-named-finalist-2025-regeneron-science-talent-search
Eight Top 300 finalists this year as opposed to seven last year. But I thought that the new admissions process was leaving top talent behind?
No other FCPS school produced a top 300 finalist this year...
No. There were more SOL failures in 2022-23 than the year prior, so the next ranking may well be lower.
Jeez, now we're maligning the class of 2025?
I mean the class of 2026.
Honestly I think the student body is improving. I don't know if they are easing off the "experience factors" or if students are self selecting themselves into the applicant pool better this year.