Anonymous
01/18/2025 15:43
Subject: Re:Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Yes some parents choose one school over the other. But please remember that Basis actively counsels kids out in middle school. And before anyone argues that this isn’t true, I know a child who goes to Basis whose parents were told this probably wasn’t a good fit for them and too difficult and they might want to transfer.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 15:42
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?
Huh? PP above is right about J-R. There are strong, super experienced advanced math teachers there. BASIS mostly gets young ones who leave after a few years for better pay, training and working conditions in DCPS or the burbs.
Huh? Maybe sit this one out.
CAPE math scores for high school (4+):
BASIS DC (high school): 89.2%
J-R: 30.2%
The fact is that the vast majority of J-R students are below grade level in math.
Great job showing you have no clue how CAPE scores work. They only test Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II, and the best students are past those courses by the end of 9th grade. BASIS forces kids to take CAPE tests below their level. JR doesn't. Hence, the best math students at JR don't take the CAPE math test at all.
But please, feel free to lecture us.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 15:33
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?
Huh? PP above is right about J-R. There are strong, super experienced advanced math teachers there. BASIS mostly gets young ones who leave after a few years for better pay, training and working conditions in DCPS or the burbs.
Huh? Maybe sit this one out.
CAPE math scores for high school (4+):
BASIS DC (high school): 89.2%
J-R: 30.2%
The fact is that the vast majority of J-R students are below grade level in math.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 15:23
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:BASIS high has plenty of flaws but JR has just as many if not a lot more: truancy, fights, drugs, etc. --- not what you will find at Basis
JR has high level sports for the few that make the teams
Anonymous wrote:JR has 1700 kids and basis high school about 200
JR has far more kids failing and going nowhere after high school ---both on a percentage basis and absolute numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
JR has more of everything: more flaws, more benefits, more students, more options (including some no-cut sports teams).
Anonymous
01/18/2025 13:38
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
BASIS high has plenty of flaws but JR has just as many if not a lot more: truancy, fights, drugs, etc. --- not what you will find at Basis
JR has high level sports for the few that make the teams
JR has high level sports for the few that make the teams
Anonymous wrote:JR has 1700 kids and basis high school about 200
JR has far more kids failing and going nowhere after high school ---both on a percentage basis and absolute numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Anonymous
01/18/2025 13:34
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
What that shows is that colleges don't care about how nice your high school facilities are.....they care if the student has brains and has participated in what the school offers
Plenty of JR kids have little to show college admissions officers, hence their poor college results given the size of the school....a few IVY acceptances out of an enormous graduating class means very little.....
Plenty of JR kids have little to show college admissions officers, hence their poor college results given the size of the school....a few IVY acceptances out of an enormous graduating class means very little.....
Anonymous wrote:out of 45 high school seniors, there are already 6 of them accepted to Ivy League Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 13:29
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Low income and URM students do far better at BASIS DC high school than those similar kids at JR
Upper Income do well at either
Upper Income do well at either
Anonymous wrote:JR has 1700 kids and basis high school about 200
JR has far more kids failing and going nowhere after high school ---both on a percentage basis and absolute numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Anonymous
01/18/2025 13:27
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
JR has 1700 kids and basis high school about 200
JR has far more kids failing and going nowhere after high school ---both on a percentage basis and absolute numbers
JR has far more kids failing and going nowhere after high school ---both on a percentage basis and absolute numbers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Anonymous
01/18/2025 13:23
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
out of 45 high school seniors, there are already 6 of them accepted to Ivy League Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 11:40
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?
Huh? PP above is right about J-R. There are strong, super experienced advanced math teachers there. BASIS mostly gets young ones who leave after a few years for better pay, training and working conditions in DCPS or the burbs.
I read PP as noting that if there are already multiple (7? 8?) ivy admits at BASIS, it is not numerically possible for there to be 8-10 other disappointed/unaccomplished kids since the senior class is only about 50 kids . . .
'(8-10 unaccomplished kid per ivy admit, according to PP
Anonymous
01/18/2025 11:39
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?
Huh? PP above is right about J-R. There are strong, super experienced advanced math teachers there. BASIS mostly gets young ones who leave after a few years for better pay, training and working conditions in DCPS or the burbs.
I read PP as noting that if there are already multiple (7? 8?) ivy admits at BASIS, it is not numerically possible for there to be 8-10 other disappointed/unaccomplished kids since the senior class is only about 50 kids . . .
Anonymous
01/18/2025 10:44
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?
Huh? PP above is right about J-R. There are strong, super experienced advanced math teachers there. BASIS mostly gets young ones who leave after a few years for better pay, training and working conditions in DCPS or the burbs.
Anonymous
01/18/2025 08:39
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure, there are plenty of BASIS DC students zoned for Deal/JR.
Define plenty. Not buying it.
Plenty means “a lot.”
The difficulty here is that Deal is large while Basis is small. So for the same number of kids, if you are at Basis it might feel like “sure, there are plenty of kids here from over there.” But if you are at Deal, it feels like “oh yeah, I did hear about that one kid, but really nobody does that.”
Anonymous
01/18/2025 00:29
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure, there are plenty of BASIS DC students zoned for Deal/JR.
Define plenty. Not buying it.
Plenty means “a lot.”
Anonymous
01/18/2025 00:05
Subject: Do parents choose Latin/BASIS over Deal/J-R?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The answer is yes if they live in-bounds for both Deal and JR because they know that's always a backup if it isn't working out.
Basis has a larger issue for HS in that it is so small. It doesn't offer the "high school experience" so to speak...so you see attrition to Walls and elsewhere including private.
Perhaps it's getting better on that front.
It is getting better because it is harder to get into Walls.
When it used to be a test - BASIS students were all in play for being selected for the interview.
Now that the test is removed, not everyone from BASIS who wants to move makes the cut.
BASIS is getting better? Proof of this? The HoS does seem better but that's about it.
BASIS DC is in terrible debt and it shows in the way the campus runs. BASIS' high school isn't getting bigger either if that's what you're claiming.
Look at the BASIS college results so far -- the 7 kids who have declared their schools are: 3 at U Penn, 1 at Harvard, 1 Dartmouth, 1 GW, 1 Wesleyan. 5/7 at Ivies is truly impressive.
We are there and I do think it's getting better every year. Better retention, and they adapt to feedback (added more writing and typing skills, reduced the proportion that the comps count to relieve stress, etc )
Not big improvements. In our experience, for every student getting into an Ivy from BASIS, there are 8 or 10 who aren't happy or all that accomplished. The way BASIS essentially crams four years of high school into three doesn't work for many students. The kids don't necessarily have time for serious ECs. Most kids with access to J-R would be better off there with a larger selection of APs, far better ECs and facilities, a more flexible and less repetitive curriculum, a happier experience and more going on to top colleges by the numbers (but not as a %).
Math is not your strength, eh?