Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:27
Subject: Re:Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tulane no question
Not as a "Spring Scholar" where he misses out on friend groups crystallizing during fall freshman year and has to be the new kid in January. These spring admit programs are bull crap. Just a way for colleges to suck in more tuition dollars while preventing low-stat and test-optional admits from dragging down their freshman class profile.
Even so, the peers will still be a step above the state schools. It is not like a Spring program is a different school. AND per OP, he is not a direct admit to Kelley or Smeal, which makes Tulane the obvious choice if it was my kid.
That's bull crap. Tulane takes anyone with a pulse and a fat bank account in the ED round.
And Yet, Tulane has produced more Rhodes Scholars than Ohio State and Penn State combined and 1 more than Indiana.
Considering the size of the school vs those 3, it looks like those “PULSELESS Kids with a Fat bank Acct” are fairing a lot better than those Big 10 State school kids…
I just looked it up. That is actually quite impressive given the school size. 18 Rhodes Scholars for Tulane vs 9 for Ohio State and 2 for PSU.
24 for West Virginia
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:26
Subject: Re:Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tulane no question
Not as a "Spring Scholar" where he misses out on friend groups crystallizing during fall freshman year and has to be the new kid in January. These spring admit programs are bull crap. Just a way for colleges to suck in more tuition dollars while preventing low-stat and test-optional admits from dragging down their freshman class profile.
Even so, the peers will still be a step above the state schools. It is not like a Spring program is a different school. AND per OP, he is not a direct admit to Kelley or Smeal, which makes Tulane the obvious choice if it was my kid.
That's bull crap. Tulane takes anyone with a pulse and a fat bank account in the ED round.
And Yet, Tulane has produced more Rhodes Scholars than Ohio State and Penn State combined and 1 more than Indiana.
Considering the size of the school vs those 3, it looks like those “PULSELESS Kids with a Fat bank Acct” are fairing a lot better than those Big 10 State school kids…
West Virginia has 30% more Rhodes Scholars than Tulane. I guess those Kids from Appalachia are fairing a lot better than the kids that can only get into Tulane because of their money.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:23
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Tulane is pretty expensive - I think my friend is paying 85k a year now all in. I’d knock out PSU for the 2+2. Wait and see with OSU. My kid is also currently pre biz at Kelley waiting for appeal results, also in direct at Purdue, Pitt and waiting on OSU. Standard admit does make me nervous even though he’s never gotten less than a B and has 11 APs- it’s just a big risk since he’s set on business. We are going to go visit IU this spring, haven’t been there.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:16
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What kind of entrepreneur does your kid want to be? Does he have a business or franchise in mind? Does he own one now?
Basically, and I say this as an MBA who took both entrepreneurship classes and all the other ones (finance, marketing, org behavior etc), he’s probably better off majoring or focusing on one of those other businesses topics. I feel like entrepreneurship as a major doesn’t really have much to it.
I have an MBA from a top school and I agree with this poster. If you don't have your own business ideas and drive, classes aren't the best way to jumpstart that.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting this though. A few people said some programs that offer entrepreneurship as a major have good resources or can offer the kids interesting opportunities. But no one said to choose based on classes, or even to major solely in entrepreneurship.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:12
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
I’ve visited all four campuses and Indiana is the best looking/feeling. I went to a T10 school myself but when I toured IU with my son I thought “In my next life I’m going to college here!”
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:11
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Peer groups from top schools are not really what’s needed for entrepreneurship. You’d be better off just looking for funding from VCs. It doesn’t matter that your undergrad roommate’s family is rich or you have tons of UMC buddies there—- that’s not how you build a business and become an entrepreneur.
Bullcrap…Sure nobody said that is what is NEEDED for entrepreneurship. Plus it depends on a million factors. What industry, location, etc etc etc. But to pretend wealthy buddies do not matter is very naive…..A wealthy buddy is not going to fund the whole growth….but will help you kickstart the business before it gets to the point it s ready for VC funding.
This is exactly what happened to me and several of my friends. Half of them started their business with college buddies that were wealthy that helped them get to the next level before VC funding took over.
Don’t be naive….
I’m willing to bet small wealthy private schools do a LOT better on startup per capita than massive state universities.
And I’m willing to bet the vast majority of those start ups weren’t financed by wealthy classmates.
Don’t be naive…
Anonymous
01/16/2025 19:06
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Peer groups from top schools are not really what’s needed for entrepreneurship. You’d be better off just looking for funding from VCs. It doesn’t matter that your undergrad roommate’s family is rich or you have tons of UMC buddies there—- that’s not how you build a business and become an entrepreneur.
Bullcrap…Sure nobody said that is what is NEEDED for entrepreneurship. Plus it depends on a million factors. What industry, location, etc etc etc. But to pretend wealthy buddies do not matter is very naive…..A wealthy buddy is not going to fund the whole growth….but will help you kickstart the business before it gets to the point it s ready for VC funding.
This is exactly what happened to me and several of my friends. Half of them started their business with college buddies that were wealthy that helped them get to the next level before VC funding took over.
Don’t be naive….
I’m willing to bet small wealthy private schools do a LOT better on startup per capita than massive state universities.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 18:58
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Peer groups from top schools are not really what’s needed for entrepreneurship. You’d be better off just looking for funding from VCs. It doesn’t matter that your undergrad roommate’s family is rich or you have tons of UMC buddies there—- that’s not how you build a business and become an entrepreneur.
So are you suggesting OP’s kid attend any of those 4 schools and neither would provide even the slightest advantage over the other?
So what is your suggestion to OP?
Anonymous
01/16/2025 18:33
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Peer groups from top schools are not really what’s needed for entrepreneurship. You’d be better off just looking for funding from VCs. It doesn’t matter that your undergrad roommate’s family is rich or you have tons of UMC buddies there—- that’s not how you build a business and become an entrepreneur.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:58
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What kind of entrepreneur does your kid want to be? Does he have a business or franchise in mind? Does he own one now?
Basically, and I say this as an MBA who took both entrepreneurship classes and all the other ones (finance, marketing, org behavior etc), he’s probably better off majoring or focusing on one of those other businesses topics. I feel like entrepreneurship as a major doesn’t really have much to it.
I have an MBA from a top school and I agree with this poster. If you don't have your own business ideas and drive, classes aren't the best way to jumpstart that.
Right. That is why it looks like OP was making the connection to peer groups and not classes…
PP. Understood but who thinks rich friends hand out money like candy to acquaintances who lack compelling business ideas?
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:53
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Assuming money and tuition is not an issue, this is such a no brainer. Kid is not sure what to study. Maybe Business. But he is not a direct admit to Kelley or Smeal. Is there even a question here? Tulane is the right move for any of the majors mentioned here, specially business as you dont have to worry about admission to Freeman.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:51
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What kind of entrepreneur does your kid want to be? Does he have a business or franchise in mind? Does he own one now?
Basically, and I say this as an MBA who took both entrepreneurship classes and all the other ones (finance, marketing, org behavior etc), he’s probably better off majoring or focusing on one of those other businesses topics. I feel like entrepreneurship as a major doesn’t really have much to it.
I have an MBA from a top school and I agree with this poster. If you don't have your own business ideas and drive, classes aren't the best way to jumpstart that.
Right. That is why it looks like OP was making the connection to peer groups and not classes…
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:49
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:What kind of entrepreneur does your kid want to be? Does he have a business or franchise in mind? Does he own one now?
Basically, and I say this as an MBA who took both entrepreneurship classes and all the other ones (finance, marketing, org behavior etc), he’s probably better off majoring or focusing on one of those other businesses topics. I feel like entrepreneurship as a major doesn’t really have much to it.
I have an MBA from a top school and I agree with this poster. If you don't have your own business ideas and drive, classes aren't the best way to jumpstart that.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:46
Subject: Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:No question Kelley should be the choice IF kid was a direct admit. OP made it clear that he is not. I do not recommend kids go to IU and then hoping to get in Kelley. All it takes is one B- and the dream is over. Why risk it if you Tulane in the bag? Makes no sense.
This is the right answer.
Anonymous
01/16/2025 17:45
Subject: Re:Indiana vs Penn State vs Ohio State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tulane no question
Not as a "Spring Scholar" where he misses out on friend groups crystallizing during fall freshman year and has to be the new kid in January. These spring admit programs are bull crap. Just a way for colleges to suck in more tuition dollars while preventing low-stat and test-optional admits from dragging down their freshman class profile.
Even so, the peers will still be a step above the state schools. It is not like a Spring program is a different school. AND per OP, he is not a direct admit to Kelley or Smeal, which makes Tulane the obvious choice if it was my kid.
That's bull crap. Tulane takes anyone with a pulse and a fat bank account in the ED round.
And Yet, Tulane has produced more Rhodes Scholars than Ohio State and Penn State combined and 1 more than Indiana.
Considering the size of the school vs those 3, it looks like those “PULSELESS Kids with a Fat bank Acct” are fairing a lot better than those Big 10 State school kids…
Not on a per capita basis….try again….What does that say about those Big 10 Schools
And yet academic powerhouses such as the University of Kansas and West Virginia University have produced more Rhodes Scholars than Tulane.