Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts

That is Buffalo State University, not University of Buffalo

Anonymous wrote:Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts

Buffalo State is a different school than the one being discussed which is University at Buffalo.

Buffalo is usually much cheaper. Pitt is stingy with merit aid.

Freshman class of 5,205 has only 188 OOS and 49 international students. That is really a low percentage.
https://suny.buffalostate.edu/facts

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Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is it rough, what does that even mean? NY is huge state with many different kinds of populations. True, the most affluent kids will be killing themselves to get into DCUM approved private colleges, but SUNY schools draw from everyone else. Cow farmers kids, professionals kids, rural, small town, totally urban from NYC, soft suburban Long Island & Westchester-it's all possible in the mix. UB is huge and draws all of these.

DP. I think it’s bad for a number of reasons. One, I don’t think a school where where 88% of students are from in state offers enough diversity. I don’t care if some come from farms and some come from the city; it’s still the same state. Also, the student body attracted to going to a school with such a lack of diversity points to a more parochial mindset. And finally, and most important, I would never send my kid to a school with a majority of New Yorkers. My husband and I grew up and worked in the tri-state area (NY, New Jersey, and CT) and we are directing our kid away from schools with a high percent of NY/NJ students. IYKYK.

Anonymous wrote:UB grad from the early 90s before the school had a football team. Now their team won the Bahama Bowl so there's a sports aspect of the school and school spirit. I loved my time at UB but I'm also from LI (even though it was a culture shock still!) What is your child's end goal as a bio major? If it's medical, do the cheaper option as the next level of schooling is where you'd want to focus more on.

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UB grad from the early 90s before the school had a football team. Now their team won the Bahama Bowl so there's a sports aspect of the school and school spirit. I loved my time at UB but I'm also from LI (even though it was a culture shock still!) What is your child's end goal as a bio major? If it's medical, do the cheaper option as the next level of schooling is where you'd want to focus more on.

Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is it rough, what does that even mean? NY is huge state with many different kinds of populations. True, the most affluent kids will be killing themselves to get into DCUM approved private colleges, but SUNY schools draw from everyone else. Cow farmers kids, professionals kids, rural, small town, totally urban from NYC, soft suburban Long Island & Westchester-it's all possible in the mix. UB is huge and draws all of these.

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Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is that "rough"?

NP with an idea - because they all head home on the weekends, or bring their friends from home to visit them.

Joining a fraternity solves a lot of this problem if you're an OOS kid without an existing social network. Yes, high school cliques will often gravitate to the same fraternity, but the forced togetherness and comfort zone shattering dynamic of pledgeship ensures you enter into that bond quickly. Not to mention, you'll enjoy god status on campus for the next 3.5 years and have access to the best parties, girls, and networking opportunities. I would never advise a kid, particularly if that kid is male, to remain a GDI at an OOS public.

It’s the god status poster!

I know, I missed him too. I wonder how foyine his wife is. And if he's sorry his favorite word is blocked.

Anonymous wrote:SUNY Buffalo or Pitt from NoVa. Would like some pros and cons between the two schools mainly vibe, campus, proximity to city. Bio major.

Coming from NoVa, and looking at a bio major, it's hard to think Pitt wouldn't have the leg up in terms of location (Pittsburgh vs. Buffalo), school spirit (Pitt wins easily), weather (gray winters vs. even longer gray winters with more snow), student diversity (Pitt gets a lot of OOS students), and name recognition (not saying that everyone knows Pitt, but many not familiar with the SUNY system will just assume SUNY Buffalo is a second-tier commuter campus).

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt is clearly superior in every single way. Pittsburgh is wonderful, Buffalo is not. Pitt is much stronger in academics and has a great vibe. How is this even a question?

Pitt is not stronger than Buffalo academically.

Pitt's OOS acceptance rate is 32%. Couldn't find info on Buffalo's probably because the vast majority are in-state applicants, but it's overall acceptance rate is 69%.

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Anonymous wrote:University at Buffalo is a co-flagship (along with Stony Brook), if that means anything.

What happened to Binghamton?

Not a flagship. I guess it didn’t rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is that "rough"?

NP with an idea - because they all head home on the weekends, or bring their friends from home to visit them.

Joining a fraternity solves a lot of this problem if you're an OOS kid without an existing social network. Yes, high school cliques will often gravitate to the same fraternity, but the forced togetherness and comfort zone shattering dynamic of pledgeship ensures you enter into that bond quickly. Not to mention, you'll enjoy god status on campus for the next 3.5 years and have access to the best parties, girls, and networking opportunities. I would never advise a kid, particularly if that kid is male, to remain a GDI at an OOS public.

It’s the god status poster!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is that "rough"?

NP with an idea - because they all head home on the weekends, or bring their friends from home to visit them.

Joining a fraternity solves a lot of this problem if you're an OOS kid without an existing social network. Yes, high school cliques will often gravitate to the same fraternity, but the forced togetherness and comfort zone shattering dynamic of pledgeship ensures you enter into that bond quickly. Not to mention, you'll enjoy god status on campus for the next 3.5 years and have access to the best parties, girls, and networking opportunities. I would never advise a kid, particularly if that kid is male, to remain a GDI at an OOS public.

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Anonymous wrote:Going to a SUNY school as someone from outside of NY can be kind of rough. It will be almost all in-state kids. Pitt is not like that.

Why is that "rough"?

NP with an idea - because they all head home on the weekends, or bring their friends from home to visit them.

Also continue to hang with friends from high school.