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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

You really think if OPM says offices are closed and you are required to work in an office because you’re in a non-telework job they’re going to charge you leave? Or are you saying they’ll tell people who have to work in office 5x/week that they need to suddenly convert an office space in their home despite not having a WAH job?

There is no DOGE. Before we even could have one, Congress would have to pass legislation.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

The changes that would be necessary to not pay staff during an office closure are extremely unlikely to ever pass. It's much more likely they'd simply refuse to close the offices, personnel safety be damned. And OPM can do that as they choose, already, without DOGE.

These threads are just stirring the pot.

I’m sure some of them would love to take that approach but I’m assuming that one of the reasons feds close or go to telework is that other agencies, including first responders, ask them to in these kinds of weather events. It’s not good if police, ambulances, fire have to respond all over to accidents on icy roads because feds weren’t told to work at home (and a lot of private employers follow feds) so this is one area where I don’t really see much changing in the future.

I’m sure that even if regular telework is abolished situational agreements would be required so people work at home in snow days and other similar events.

Anonymous wrote:DOGE is Leon Musk's ketamome fantasy, not the government.

Is that Elon's anger interpreter...like Luther for Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

The changes that would be necessary to not pay staff during an office closure are extremely unlikely to ever pass. It's much more likely they'd simply refuse to close the offices, personnel safety be damned. And OPM can do that as they choose, already, without DOGE.

These threads are just stirring the pot.

All of them. Better to not post about things that haven't happened yet....

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

The changes that would be necessary to not pay staff during an office closure are extremely unlikely to ever pass. It's much more likely they'd simply refuse to close the offices, personnel safety be damned. And OPM can do that as they choose, already, without DOGE.

These threads are just stirring the pot.

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Anonymous wrote:Working from home means Netflix and online shopping. As long as the little green light is on, they believe you are “ working.”

No, it doesn’t.

Yes, it does. And laundry, and “starting dinner.” You’re not fooling anyone with a brain, no matter how loudly and dramatically you protest that you are working soooo many hours with your nose to the grindstone at home. BS.

I don't understand- do you not have deliverables or deadlines?

We have metrics in my office. They see if you are getting your work done whether at home or office.

But you have time to do all the laundry and make meals during your workday? You must be very effieicent, that's great.

Of course I have time to throw in a load of laundry. If I were in the office - I'd have time to go chat with a co-worker or get a coffee. Are you chained to your desk??

So what are you complaining about exactly?

where did I complain?

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Anonymous wrote:Working from home means Netflix and online shopping. As long as the little green light is on, they believe you are “ working.”

No, it doesn’t.

Yes, it does. And laundry, and “starting dinner.” You’re not fooling anyone with a brain, no matter how loudly and dramatically you protest that you are working soooo many hours with your nose to the grindstone at home. BS.

I don't understand- do you not have deliverables or deadlines?

We have metrics in my office. They see if you are getting your work done whether at home or office.

But you have time to do all the laundry and make meals during your workday? You must be very effieicent, that's great.

Of course I have time to throw in a load of laundry. If I were in the office - I'd have time to go chat with a co-worker or get a coffee. Are you chained to your desk??

So what are you complaining about exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Back to back comments:

“You won’t have a job when DOGE is done with you”

“DOGE won’t do jack crap”

We won’t know anything until we do. So enough with this topic.

You forgot to add DOGE will have you working 50 hours per week. This is usually touted by the same people who claim we won’t have jobs.

You’ll be working 50 hours per week scrubbing your kid’s high school floor and shoveling snow. Janitors love overtime!

DOGE has no authority to allow, or disallow, anything. They’re a couple of guys in a room making recommendations at their whim but have no power to make policy.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

But there’s no guarantee that going forward you’d get pay. You could end up being charged with leave if you don’t show up. Regardless everything is speculation and these threads are just another way people are expressing their outrage at RTO.

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Back to back comments:

“You won’t have a job when DOGE is done with you”

“DOGE won’t do jack crap”

We won’t know anything until we do. So enough with this topic.

You forgot to add DOGE will have you working 50 hours per week. This is usually touted by the same people who claim we won’t have jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stop it with the 8-6?? No one is making feds work 10 hour days and get paid for 8.

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2024/11/21/federal-workers-return-office-doge-elon-musk

This was one comment on a tv show made over a month ago that hasn’t been brought up again. They like to talk a lot of nonsense and I hardly think the general public is on the edge of their seats to see how this turns out. They just want to hear :rabble rabble fed employees rabble rabble: and then their tiny pea brains move on to the next [thing the conservatives tell them to be upset about e.g. trans library hour, immigration, etc.].

Before I worked for the government I spent almost no time thinking about the employment conditions of fed employees. I grew up in a conservative place down south and except for an occasional “useless government” comment, this is not high priority to be followed up on.

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Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.

DP but at my agency in order to telework you have to have a telework agreement. If telework goes away then there is no telework agreement meaning people will not have their homes set up with an office.

Before telework we got snow days off, so I would imagine it would revert to that. I mean I wouldn’t put it past DOGE to try to have it both ways, but I don’t think it would work because of OPM determining work statuses. If work can’t be done at home on a non-snow day because it must be done in an office chair to be productive, then how would snow on the ground magically make teleworking more productive?

Anonymous wrote:People won't be taking their laptops home if TW disappears, so no.

But then you’ll just end up burning leave. Some people are ok with that and some people have no options due to childcare issues. But not everyone is going to leave their laptops at work and waste a day of leave.