Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 13:05     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:I think alcohol will be my generations smoking. The more data that comes out it’s pretty bad. While I agree that the stuff in food is also bad for you, that doesn’t give alcohol a pass. Also if I overeat on treats, etc, my Fitbit doesn’t really show a difference in my stats for the day. If I have even one glass of wine (I am a very occasional drinker—maybe 1-2 times per month), my resting heart rate goes up 4-5 bpm which is big jump for me, and my heart rate variability takes a complete nose dive. That alone has been enough for me to curb a lot.


Yup. My father in law has stage 4 lung cancer from smoking. I would say addictive habits are in the genes but his boys turned to alcohol because they didn’t want to smoke like their dad. They aren’t alcoholics but they drink quite a bit and enough that it surely can affect them physically. But they think it’s better than smoking.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 12:58     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:I think alcohol will be my generations smoking. The more data that comes out it’s pretty bad. While I agree that the stuff in food is also bad for you, that doesn’t give alcohol a pass. Also if I overeat on treats, etc, my Fitbit doesn’t really show a difference in my stats for the day. If I have even one glass of wine (I am a very occasional drinker—maybe 1-2 times per month), my resting heart rate goes up 4-5 bpm which is big jump for me, and my heart rate variability takes a complete nose dive. That alone has been enough for me to curb a lot.


Agree.

There's a researcher/author that writes about how alcohol has long been used as part of the social fabric and for social bonding. But he also noted that historically our alcohol has not been as concentrated as it is today (specifically liquor), that it was always consumed with others - that drinking alone was a big taboo, and that it was done occasionally and not often. Basically we are overdoing too much of a good thing.

Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 12:50     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
I think alcohol will be my generations smoking. The more data that comes out it’s pretty bad. While I agree that the stuff in food is also bad for you, that doesn’t give alcohol a pass. Also if I overeat on treats, etc, my Fitbit doesn’t really show a difference in my stats for the day. If I have even one glass of wine (I am a very occasional drinker—maybe 1-2 times per month), my resting heart rate goes up 4-5 bpm which is big jump for me, and my heart rate variability takes a complete nose dive. That alone has been enough for me to curb a lot.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 12:42     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:People who have a high use of alcohol probably aren’t visiting their PCP frequently and getting their bloodwork annually. These results never tell the whole story.


I find this assumption amusing - you think all the wine moms and whiskey dads are staying away from the doctor?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 11:53     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For decades they have been saying moderate drinking is fine and, for some of that period, they said red wine was beneficial to the heart. I am 52 and drink a glass of red wine maybe 2-3 times a week. Probably too late for me.



Those studies on red wine being beneficial were called into question years ago. At this point, people who like alcohol tune out the obvious.


Yes but I think the evidence is still somewhat more mixed on red wine which is why the French and Italians aren’t dying in droves. American-style beer, white wine, and all the gin and tonic type stuff has no real redeeming qualities.


Why is red wine better than white?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 11:47     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
It’s about time they make an announcement about alcohol. Kids go crazy in college drinking and then it continues into their 20s-30s because it is the social thing to do. ‘Let’s get drinks!’ Etc. Yet, it’s the first question the oncologist asks when you initially get diagnosed with cancer. ‘Do you drink and how much?’ Then, ‘Do you smoke?’ So, they have known for decades that there is a link to cancer. Both are rough and unnatural to your body. Just now the U.S. Surgeon General is going to label it.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 11:39     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
This is another in a series of public studies/warnings which highlight factors that can cause cancer. That way, when the public hears that aggressive cancer is surging in the young in the last few years, people will assume it's due to one of the longstanding risk factors discussed in the press and not something else.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 11:31     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great, so more people will switch to weed instead. Just what we need.


Be clear, the cannabis industry has been behind much of the anti-alcohol campaign of the last few years. People destroying their brains much faster than moderate alcohol will kill them.


I completely agree. I'm so annoyed that as someone with a clearance that I can't smoke.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 09:42     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great, so more people will switch to weed instead. Just what we need.


Be clear, the cannabis industry has been behind much of the anti-alcohol campaign of the last few years. People destroying their brains much faster than moderate alcohol will kill them.


This makes a lot of sense to me.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 09:28     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
I’m glad to learn this also during dry January. Cancer sucks big time. Better to be a little more safer. One taste of cancer and you’ll look at everything differently. Some things are not worth it.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2025 07:55     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great, so more people will switch to weed instead. Just what we need.


Be clear, the cannabis industry has been behind much of the anti-alcohol campaign of the last few years. People destroying their brains much faster than moderate alcohol will kill them.


Thank goodness there’s no powerful alcohol lobby or anything


DP. The cannabis industry is still emerging though, which means there’s a lot of money to be made. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this announcement comes on the heels of more widespread legalization of marijuana.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 23:16     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:Well it is a poison, what do you expect. I’m going to have another beer though.


Haha - idk if poison is correct.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 21:42     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Well it is a poison, what do you expect. I’m going to have another beer though.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 21:16     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For decades they have been saying moderate drinking is fine and, for some of that period, they said red wine was beneficial to the heart. I am 52 and drink a glass of red wine maybe 2-3 times a week. Probably too late for me.



Those studies on red wine being beneficial were called into question years ago. At this point, people who like alcohol tune out the obvious.


Yes but I think the evidence is still somewhat more mixed on red wine which is why the French and Italians aren’t dying in droves. American-style beer, white wine, and all the gin and tonic type stuff has no real redeeming qualities.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2025 19:50     Subject: Surgeon General Warns of Connection Between Alcohol Use and Cancer
If you ask ai to break down the increased cancer risk by type of cancer you will see it’s actually very minimal. It’s also dwarfed by the much more deleterious affect of being overweight which is the number one health crisis impacting Americans health. It’s not that he’s wrong but he’s focusing on the much lesser evil as compared to having a bmi over 25