Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 14:12     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


They were only here on temporary visas. That's the part you're ignoring. Their visas could have expired and not be renewed yet their kid would still be given citizenship AS AN ANCHOR BABY.

Sorry MAGAs but you can't wiggle out of this one.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 14:07     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids born here when parents live here legally would also get visas or green cards anyway if they didn’t get citizenship. That’s what happens in every other country. After a couple years they would then be eligible for citizenship. I’m one of the people who had a baby here while on green card and I would have been fine with getting the kids citizenship later rather than immediately at birth. It just saves the country administrative costs to do it at birth. Kids born here when the parents are not living here legally are a completely different situation. Even worse is when they try to use those kids as an excuse to not be deported themselves.

This whole thread is dumb and certainly not the gotcha that some people think it is.

Having a Green Card is not the same as been here on a visa.


Why not? I had the legal right to live here but wasn’t a citizen. I’d consider green cards in the same category as H1-B for the purposes of having a child in the country. Your life is in the US but you haven’t (yet) got citizenship. Most people on a long term work visa intend to stay long term.

H1-B is not a long term visa.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 14:00     Subject: Re:Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Idk why posters are making this complicated. There are several categories of immigrants. People here illegally with no visa or expired visa, tourists with temp visas and people with long term visas. We could follow model in some countries in Europe that dcum loves to quote eg Germany where kids of parents that are on long-term visa could choose to get German citizienship.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:45     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids born here when parents live here legally would also get visas or green cards anyway if they didn’t get citizenship. That’s what happens in every other country. After a couple years they would then be eligible for citizenship. I’m one of the people who had a baby here while on green card and I would have been fine with getting the kids citizenship later rather than immediately at birth. It just saves the country administrative costs to do it at birth. Kids born here when the parents are not living here legally are a completely different situation. Even worse is when they try to use those kids as an excuse to not be deported themselves.

This whole thread is dumb and certainly not the gotcha that some people think it is.

Having a Green Card is not the same as been here on a visa.


Why not? I had the legal right to live here but wasn’t a citizen. I’d consider green cards in the same category as H1-B for the purposes of having a child in the country. Your life is in the US but you haven’t (yet) got citizenship. Most people on a long term work visa intend to stay long term.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:40     Subject: Re:Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought MAGAs don't like Vivek.


We like him fine. We just didn’t want him for president over Trump.


You told Vivek, to his face, that you didn't want him to be president because of his skin color and religion. Seems like he's not "American" enough for you.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:31     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:Kids born here when parents live here legally would also get visas or green cards anyway if they didn’t get citizenship. That’s what happens in every other country. After a couple years they would then be eligible for citizenship. I’m one of the people who had a baby here while on green card and I would have been fine with getting the kids citizenship later rather than immediately at birth. It just saves the country administrative costs to do it at birth. Kids born here when the parents are not living here legally are a completely different situation. Even worse is when they try to use those kids as an excuse to not be deported themselves.

This whole thread is dumb and certainly not the gotcha that some people think it is.

Having a Green Card is not the same as been here on a visa.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:28     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?

There have been many posts on here where people are complaining about that very scenario: pregnant women coming here on a tourist visa and then giving birth to give their children American citizenship. Now, all of a sudden, MAGA are only pointing out the illegal ones who do this.

ITA with OP. MAGA are twisting themselves in a pretzel, again, due to the many hypocrisies of Trumplandia.


In fact, the Trump administration was trying to keep pregnant women from getting tourist visas:
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed


Good.
“consular officers would ask the question only if they had reason to believe the applicant is pregnant and likely or planning to give birth in the U.S.“


So now we're all on the same page that children born of people here legally on visas are in fact anchor babies, and that Vivek is therefore an anchor baby?


No. We are all on the same page that we should restrict tourists from planning on having babies here in hopes of gaining legal status.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:22     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?

There have been many posts on here where people are complaining about that very scenario: pregnant women coming here on a tourist visa and then giving birth to give their children American citizenship. Now, all of a sudden, MAGA are only pointing out the illegal ones who do this.

ITA with OP. MAGA are twisting themselves in a pretzel, again, due to the many hypocrisies of Trumplandia.


In fact, the Trump administration was trying to keep pregnant women from getting tourist visas:
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed


Good.
“consular officers would ask the question only if they had reason to believe the applicant is pregnant and likely or planning to give birth in the U.S.“


So now we're all on the same page that children born of people here legally on visas are in fact anchor babies, and that Vivek is therefore an anchor baby?


Your reading comprehension needs some work.

This is an interesting take though. Vivik's parents were here on visa when he was born so he is a US citizen. However he has just shown his hand for where his loyalty lays by wanting to bring in more Indians and what he thinks of Americans and our culture. He is actually making the case for children of non citizens not to be granted birthright citizenship. Glad he didn't make it past the primary with those views of America.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:15     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?

There have been many posts on here where people are complaining about that very scenario: pregnant women coming here on a tourist visa and then giving birth to give their children American citizenship. Now, all of a sudden, MAGA are only pointing out the illegal ones who do this.

ITA with OP. MAGA are twisting themselves in a pretzel, again, due to the many hypocrisies of Trumplandia.


In fact, the Trump administration was trying to keep pregnant women from getting tourist visas:
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed


Good.
“consular officers would ask the question only if they had reason to believe the applicant is pregnant and likely or planning to give birth in the U.S.“


So now we're all on the same page that children born of people here legally on visas are in fact anchor babies, and that Vivek is therefore an anchor baby?
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:09     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?


DP. Of course they aren’t worthy of citizenship. No kids should get citizenship unless their parents are American or legally living long term in America at the time they were born. It’s not that hard to understand.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:07     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?

There have been many posts on here where people are complaining about that very scenario: pregnant women coming here on a tourist visa and then giving birth to give their children American citizenship. Now, all of a sudden, MAGA are only pointing out the illegal ones who do this.

ITA with OP. MAGA are twisting themselves in a pretzel, again, due to the many hypocrisies of Trumplandia.


In fact, the Trump administration was trying to keep pregnant women from getting tourist visas:
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed


Good.
“consular officers would ask the question only if they had reason to believe the applicant is pregnant and likely or planning to give birth in the U.S.“
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 13:02     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


How do you feel about wealthy women on tourist visas from developed countries who come to the US to give birth? Are those anchor babies? Are they worthy of citizenship?

There have been many posts on here where people are complaining about that very scenario: pregnant women coming here on a tourist visa and then giving birth to give their children American citizenship. Now, all of a sudden, MAGA are only pointing out the illegal ones who do this.

ITA with OP. MAGA are twisting themselves in a pretzel, again, due to the many hypocrisies of Trumplandia.


In fact, the Trump administration was trying to keep pregnant women from getting tourist visas:
https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-politics-d4c42c5311ba8a6661855cadd12f0fed
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 12:41     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.

Y’all want to end birthright citizenship. At least keep your stories straight.


Those don’t conflict with each other.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 12:40     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAGA here. Children of legal immigrants aren't anchor babies. I dont know why this is so complicated- we aren't against immigrants. We are against open borders with no security. This isnt rocket science and you're unable to comprehend this because you're too devoted to the theory that the right is motivated by racism.


Children born in the US are automatically US citizens.

"The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees that every child born "within the jurisdiction of the United States" is a U.S. citizen, regardless of their parent's immigration or citizenship status.Oct 16, 2024"


We all know this. Doesn’t mean we agree with it.
Anonymous
Post 01/02/2025 12:40     Subject: Why does the right wing suddenly love anchor babies?
What type of visas were their parents on?

Tourist visas, other temporary visas, should largely not be counted. (Technically almost all visas are temporary)