Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 12:55     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

She over stayed her visa or entered under false pretenses. She has apparently renewed her passport from her country of citizenship or is it expired?

Did she work? Pay taxes? What did she use as tax ID or did she falsify that?


Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 12:18     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

JFC is this true? We live in MontCo, have a disabled kid who will never live independently and we know WE will never be able to rely on Medicaid.

Anonymous wrote:Some jurisdictions -- including DC and Montgomery County -- have medicaid paid with local dollars (not federal) for undocumented immigrants. It doesn't cover everything and I don't know if it covers long term care.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 12:16     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:*Undcoumented are NOT filing taxes


Sometimes they are, if their employer is scrupulous. Technically, they are supposed to. Who knows how often it actually happens.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 12:15     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:Much will depend on her specific care needs. If she actually needs a skilled nursing facility it is one thing. If all she needs is basic care (food, shelter, laundry, etc.), that’s another There are charitable care homes under various auspices, including probably Catholic Charities and the Lutherans.


If she were merely homeless, there are various transitional housing programs in MoCo (but she would have to reside in the shelter a long time first, and it’s uncertain if eligibility extends to the undocumented). But with early onset dementia, her care needs will be extensive. Going back to home country is only option, unless her church/friends/family are willing to pay for assisted living or move her into their homes and provide 24x7 care.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:32     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

*Undcoumented are NOT filing taxes
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:32     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What kind of undocumented, like fully off the grid? Or in the system in some temporary status?


Nope. No temporary status, just expired guest visa.


So an illegal immigrant. Which means she hasn’t paid into the system and it owes her nothing.


In 15 years of working, she has most assuredly paid into the system. But, yes, it will give her nothing.


If she worked under the table and/or sent money back home as a remittances versus keeping it here in the US, she most certainly did not pay into the system.

She may have a TIN number, she may have got paid less in exchange for cash, so the employer has her money. Employer also has the money they owe to government on her behalf. She also paid taxes on most thing she bought like all of us.
Wage theft is probably the biggest tax she paid. It is for me and it continued even when I became legal.


Sorry but this is nothing but convoluted excuses. It is doubtful people who are here undocumented are NOT filing taxes with the IRS (therefore no TIN)

Furthermore, whatever sales tax she paid is nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to what medical costs and long-term care would be. I'd guess the total of all her sales tax paid for 15 years wouldn't even equal a week's stay at a long-term care facility.

I've been a visitor to foreign countries many, many times and paid my share of sales tax in those countries. Does that mean I am entitled to housing, medical care, and long-term nursing (perhaps for decades in the case of dementia patients)?

Imagine an American going to Italy, Germany or England and saying, "I paid sales tax here so YOU OWE ME!" We'd be laughed back on a plane so fast it would be a supersonic trip.

Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:12     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of undocumented, like fully off the grid? Or in the system in some temporary status?


Nope. No temporary status, just expired guest visa.


So an illegal immigrant. Which means she hasn’t paid into the system and it owes her nothing.


In 15 years of working, she has most assuredly paid into the system. But, yes, it will give her nothing.


If she worked under the table and/or sent money back home as a remittances versus keeping it here in the US, she most certainly did not pay into the system.


+1000 She did NOT pay into the system.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:11     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of undocumented, like fully off the grid? Or in the system in some temporary status?


Nope. No temporary status, just expired guest visa.


So an illegal immigrant. Which means she hasn’t paid into the system and it owes her nothing.


In 15 years of working, she has most assuredly paid into the system. But, yes, it will give her nothing.


If she worked under the table and/or sent money back home as a remittances versus keeping it here in the US, she most certainly did not pay into the system.

She may have a TIN number, she may have got paid less in exchange for cash, so the employer has her money. Employer also has the money they owe to government on her behalf. She also paid taxes on most thing she bought like all of us.
Wage theft is probably the biggest tax she paid.It is for me and it continued even when I became legal.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:10     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Much will depend on her specific care needs. If she actually needs a skilled nursing facility it is one thing. If all she needs is basic care (food, shelter, laundry, etc.), that’s another There are charitable care homes under various auspices, including probably Catholic Charities and the Lutherans.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:10     Subject: Re:Nursing home for undocumented friend

The best thing you can do for her is contact her relatives, no matter what country they live in.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:08     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:To clarify, she came on the guest visa 15 years ago and never went back. She has a passport from her country of birth(OP)


Then she needs to be sent back to her country of origin to help her. Help her get back home for assistance.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:06     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

NO!
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 10:26     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Does she have family there? Cost of care may be lower?
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 09:56     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of undocumented, like fully off the grid? Or in the system in some temporary status?


Nope. No temporary status, just expired guest visa.


So an illegal immigrant. Which means she hasn’t paid into the system and it owes her nothing.


In 15 years of working, she has most assuredly paid into the system. But, yes, it will give her nothing.


If she worked under the table and/or sent money back home as a remittances versus keeping it here in the US, she most certainly did not pay into the system.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 09:28     Subject: Nursing home for undocumented friend

OP it does sound like her home country is the only option. It's extremely challenging even when the loved one is a documented citizen. It has been a nightmare for us even with parents who saved and born in the US.

Does she have adult children? I don't think most random relatives are going to take on the ordeal of someone who needs 24-7 care and I assume has no funds. What is your relation to her?

I don't know that this is something a church will even take on. We are talking about 24-7 care, not someone who needs an occasional drive somewhere or a food chain. Plus, there can be psychotic behavior as dementia progresses.